The real reason we don't have a strong team.

Solution:

Fire JVG!

 

Wow Nachbar has been in the league a long time Or did you mean Turcan the Turkey, who never did anything in the league

 

We should have KEPT NACHBAR I felt he would more of a "thrown in" for the Jim Jackson trade



Tmac
Yao
Shane
Nachbar
Rafer

Bonzi, Head, Deke

 

Youre acting like boki was a star player here. everytime he went on the floor he had a 1-8 or 2-11 shooting nights. he sealed he's own faith.
When we pickedup Taylor, the guy was young and he was puttingup 20 and 9 for the clippers. lot of teams were after he"s signature.
You dont think a 2 TIME LEAGUE SCORING CHAMP AND 5 TIME ALLSTAR IS NOT WORTH TRADING FRANCIS AND cat for because it leaves us with a supposed lack of drain in the youth department?. besides last season, we've had 2 50 plus win seasons with mac and yao. with francis the best win loss season we had was 45.

 

2001-2002 was the real stinker. 3 completely wasted 1st round pick. just mindboggling.

 

Of all the mistakes the Rockets have made the absolute worst was hiring Jeff Van Gundy. Never before in the history of the Rockets organization have they had an ego-maniacal, self indulging, manipulative, tyrant for a coach. And the fans were forcefed him for 4 years. What a disiaster. This will go down as one of the biggest mistakes in Rocket history. Support the Rockets got to www.firejvg.com!!!

 

Let's see how does this Morey guy handles this team. Hopefully they did hire Thomas II.

 

Kep you're blood pressure ol chap. he's gone. you can breath again.

 

Actually it was 4 - we traded a future 1st round pick (which was owed to us by Detroit for trading the rights to Mirsad Turckan) for Terrance Morris as well.

What was equally frustrating is that we traded Glen Rice AND a pick to Utah for John Amaechi. Given that Rice's contract was expiring, I don't get why we made that trade.

 

yeah. trading jefferson and then passing zach randolph, tony parker or even gerald wallace for griffin was a much better decision.

support the rockets. stop trying to look for a scapegoat. Take of the rocket red glasses people. this team has major player personnel flaws.

 

very nice post dude.very well thought out and and put in words.

 

I think it is easy to get distracted by the particulars of past roster moves -- the Griffin mistake, the Thomas/Posey mistake, etc. -- but ignoring that stuff, I do agree with you that our problem has been (especially in the JVG years, though I don't blame him) mortgaging the future to try to hit a homerun in the current year... but not having enough talent to do it. We do it with the roster moves and with playing time. We had a good season 2 years ago, but we'd probably be happier today if we had sacrificed that success for some players with growth potential that we could have harvested this season. It seems to me that this last offseason, we started to take a longer view with V-Span, Lucas, Snyder, etc. Hopefully, we don't ditch them to get just a little more juice for next season.

 

if the bulls can do it, we can do it.

 

Great post, history is HD mirror, Rockets management is kind of weak.
JVG is the guy who uses or say trust his old budies, this is ridiculous. Jeff dislike European players without reason, but he was simply defeated by AK47 and Okur. JVG does not allow CD or Dream to train Yao, only trust his old centers and assistant coach, those guys did good job, but it would be better if Yao got earlier help from CD or Dream. To be honesest, I think JVG is a perfect assistanst coach and he will never turn out to be a master head coach. Look at Sloan or Nelson, they make quick changes anytime is a game, they are top hunting dogs with sharp nose and eyes. JVG is always sticking to his "old" stuff and thoughts, and even notes in pocket, he trust those things more than his eyes. He is so predictable. And most of all, a coach can not develop young or new players will never be a great coach.

Fire JVG, get rid of Rafer.Coach is the brain of a team, PG is the commander on court. JVG and Rafer brought us that miserable loss. Look at Deron or BD, why can not we find a good pg?

That is all what I what, how about you?

 

The bulls went through a patch where the regulary had a lottery pick due to there horrendus record. they were litterally thrash for that period. i dont wanna see the rockets go through tht period.

 

I have seen many trade scenarios here on the forum, assuming the other teams' management is so dumb that they would trade their assets for our throw-aways.
It turns out the Rox' management is the dumb ones

 

I won't criticize the Battier/Gay trade. Rudy Gay could be terrific in a few years, but Battier was a good fit for a team looking to win right now. With T-Mac's fragile back and Yao suddenly unable to play more than 50 games a season the last two years, you can't afford a 3-year plan. Never mind the fact that the Rockets organization would have a hard time selling that idea to a fanbase that hasn't seen a playoff series victory in over a decade now.

That being said, the personnel moves by the front office have been for the most part disasterous. Not only were a lot of their free agent signings and draft choices piss poor, but they wasted valuable lottery picks and used up any remaining cap space.

I guess if you wanna look at the bright side(if there is one following a Game 7 loss at home), the organization can no longer ignore the fact that the NBA has evolved and without some young, athletic players around Yao and T-Mac, it's gonna be near impossible to accomplish anything in a loaded Western Conference. Which is why Van Gundy's probably on his way out. He refuses to accept that the game has changed.

 

This is a great thread. Here's a history lesson on how to build a championship team. Slowly add good pieces and subtract bad pieces.


1987-88 Houston Rockets
Hakeem Olajuwon
Purvis Short
Rodney McCray
Allen Leavell
Sleepy Floyd

1988-89 Houston Rockets

Hakeem Olajuwon
Otis Thorpe
Vernon Maxwell

1990-91 Houston Rockets
Otis Thorpe
Vernon Maxwell
Kenny Smith
Hakeem Olajuwon
Matt Bullard

1991-92 Houston Rockets
Hakeem Olajuwon
Otis Thorpe
Vernon Maxwell
Kenny Smith
Matt Bullard
Carl Herrera


1992-93 Houston Rockets
Hakeem Olajuwon
Kenny Smith
Vernon Maxwell
Otis Thorpe
Robert Horry
Carl Herrera
Matt Bullard
Scott Brooks

1993-94 Houston Rockets (CHAMPS)
Hakeem Olajuwon
Otis Thorpe
Vernon Maxwell
Kenny Smith
Robert Horry
Mario Elie
Sam Cassell
Scott Brooks
Carl Herrera
Matt Bullard

 

So all we got for a expiring contract and a pick was boobs man?....