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Riots continue in Argentina amid summit of Americas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tigermission1, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Contributing Member

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    Lots of anger in Argentina, and reading "Confessions of an economic hitman" would help explain why and how Argentina came to be in the place it's in for the last few years...

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-11/05/content_3734186.htm

    Riots continue in Argentina amid summit of Americas

    MAR DEL PLATA, Argentina, Nov. 4 (Xinhuanet) -- Riots and violent clashes between police and demonstrators were continuing in the Argentine beach city of Mar del Plata and the capital Buenos Aireson Friday.

    Dozens of people, including Mayor Daniel Katz of Mar del Plata and several policemen, were wounded in the clashes which began soon after the fourth Summit of the Americas began in the city, about 400 km south of Buenos Aires.

    More than 65 people have been arrested in Mar del Plata, well-informed sources told Xinhua.

    Heavily armed police fired tear gas to drive away demonstrators who gathered near the venue of the summit since Friday morning to protest against US foreign and trade policy, and the US-led war on Iraq.

    Some 40,000 people joined the organized demonstrations. The angry demonstrators threw stones at police, set American national flags on fire, and attacked banks and stores nearby.

    While the riots and violence in Mar del Plata were yet to be put under control, hundreds of protesters took to the street in downtown Buenos Aires.

    Several stores and commercial institutions were set ablaze and seriously damaged.

    Police detained a number of demonstrators to prevent the situation from swirling out of control.

    No death was reported so far.

    US President George W. Bush, who arrived here Thursday night, was attending the two-day summit which will be focusing on topics like free trade and fighting poverty.

    The Argentine authorities have mobilized some 35,000 policeman and government troops to guard against any possible terror attack.
     
  2. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

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    Though the dittoheads will deny it, it does not advance the interests of the United States to have a President who is extraordinarily unpopular around the world. Neither does ruining our image by violating international law with an invasion that was not supported by the UN. Neither does torture or secret torture prisons. By a two to one margin Americans don't think the Iraq War was "worth it". The margin is much higher in the rest of the world.
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    From Time Magazine ( I know dittos it isn't Fox News, but give it a try)

    .... Far from being the mejor amigo he promised to be, Bush today is arguably more unpopular in Latin America than any U.S. president in history. In Argentina's capital, Buenos Aires, a recent poll showed 64% have a poor or very poor opinion of him. Elsewhere in the region, Bush's approval rating usually falls below 25%. Part of the problem is broad opposition to the Iraq war; another is the perception that Bush is a Monroe Doctrine throwback to heavy-handed U.S. interventionism in the region. That image caught fire after the Bush Administration was widely accused of backing a failed coup against Chavez in 2002 (a charge the White House denies). Fuel was added last summer when conservative televangelist Pat Robertson—a high-profile supporter of President Bush — publicly called for Chavez's assassination. (Robertson has since apologized.) Chavez is a democratically elected president, but his close friendship with Cuba's Fidel Castro, his own flirtations with autocratic government and his recently declared interest in acquiring nuclear technology have Washington bristling. As a result, the fiery Chavez and his growing number of supporters around the region remain vocally convinced that Bush is out to kill him.

    But Bush's biggest south-of-the-border PR problem is economic. Even before the start of the November 4-5 Summit, devoted to combating poverty and creating jobs, Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela and other Latin nations banded together to nudge Washington's Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA) proposal off the agenda. The move, which has angered the Bush Administration, reflects growing skepticism in Latin America over the virtues of free-market reforms, which many believe have simply widened the chasm between rich and poor in a region that already displays the world's worst disparities in wealth....
    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1126425,00.html
     
  3. HayesStreet

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    This is about as interesting as the WTO riots in Seattle. Yawn.
     
  4. thadeus

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    The interesting part is that the national media gives them so little coverage, although they frequently involve more people than anything else current in the news except Bush's war. It's not like the sixties - these protestors (maybe not so much in Argentina, but definitely in the U.S. and Western Europe) have access to technology to communicate and organize on a much wider scale. Also, the whole bull**** "peace" ideology - the near total refusal to actively do anything but sit-in protests - that prevented the hippies from accomplishing much isn't nearly as strong with modern day protestors.

    In the U.S. and abroad - most of these protestors are younger people. Even though they're being ignored by the interests they threaten, I still think this is a sure sign a change is a' comin'.
     
  5. Svpernaut

    Svpernaut Contributing Member

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    People in South America are rioting? NO WAY!
     
  6. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Contributing Member

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    This time, however, it's not over soccer ;)
     
  7. glynch

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    Yeah, you're unconcerned. Probably just a claim or two that they are socialists before you are up for some more invasions, wars , torture and death squad action-- from your armchair, by others of course. :rolleyes:
     
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  8. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Contributing Member

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    Interesting take, since a part of the demonstration/anger/rioting was directed at US foreign policy as well.

    So I guess you're interested in some riots and not others? I catch your drift...
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    There may be some anger, however I bet Argentina does the right thing and continues to open its economy to trade and competition.
     
  10. thacabbage

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    Why am I not surprised by your response?
     
  11. HayesStreet

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    I put these riots in the same category at the WTO incidents because they're both at economic summits where publicity is high. You get a hodgepodge collection of people demonstrating for a variety of causes getting rowdier and rowdier and the mob mentality takes hold. Now their destroying local businesses etc. At what summit in this category doesn't this happen?
     
  12. bnb

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    sadly, Hayes is right.

    The riots are no longer front page news. Too predictable.

    Crazy, isn't it.
     
  13. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Contributing Member

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    I understand it was an economic meeting, but not all the rioters were apparently protesting ONLY Argentina's economic problems, but other 'hot' international issues were at play here, according to the articles.
     
  14. bnb

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    not sure i understand your point tm:

    what's markedly different between these riots and those at Seattle, Genoa or that hotbed of unrest, Sweden (gothenburg riots).
     
  15. mc mark

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    damn kids...

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