Maybe this is why we've never seen Cheney's energy plan...

No no, it's about democracy.

 

The war in Iraq is about oil.
The invasion of Afganistan was about drugs.

That can be proven.

I love our soldiers. I hate that they are being used as mercinaries at the bidding of the global oil, banking and drug cartels.

Iran is on the hit list.
Venzuala and many African nations are targets.

The Global oil, banking and drug cartel have a powerful enforcement operation- U.S. Military might and the CIA.

When the Taliban almost destroyed to zero the opium business it didn't take the CIA long to react and the U.S. was spot on to get the Taliban out of the way. Now within weeks of our military operations the CIA was able to get the opium business up and going with a 300% immediate increase in production and now Afaganistan is the leading producer in the world.

Herion flooded into Iraq for the first time as soon as the US invasion secured Bagdad.

Without the cash flow of the drug cartel Wall Street would be in deep doo-doo. That cash is critical to the cartel. They cannot operate without it. If you want to know the difference between Wall Street and the CIA, start tracing where CIA directors and depity directors operate. They just shift back and forth between running the CIA and running the big Wall Street financial players.

Please investigate this for yourself.

CIA= Wall Street

 

This is probably the worst post I've ever read. glynch would be thrilled, though.

Please substantiate ANY of this. Your reputation is on the line.

 

I have no trouble believing the Iraq war was waged to win a chip against OPEC. But saying our fight in Afghanistan was waged to increase the production of opium is crazy. That opium production went up after the war isn't enough evidence -- illegal activities will increase when lawlessness increases and regime change definitely creates a pocket of lawlessness.

 

prove it, pal. cause as of now, it seems like you completely pulled that out of your ass.

the Iraq/oil connection is quite obvious on the other hand.

 

yes we all know the publicly traded companies on the NYSE are funded by drug money from afghanistan

 

There was a thread a while back that had CIA or FBI agents speaking about the U.S. selling drugs. It doesn't mention that the war in Afghanistan was about that.

 

If you guys will give me til Monday when I am back at work and able to post I will get busy.

What I will use is documentation that is verifiable but will require you to think. Thank you for reading the post, I hate extreme stuff- that is apparantly wacko out in space and for that reason I thought about the work it would take to go back and pull up
"the Dots". I will do my best because I posted with hopes of having this interest and opportunity.

All I will ask is that you check out the research and connect the dots:

I will document how Wall Street financiers move to high CIA positions and visa versa. Give an overview of how drug money is laundered. How that cash ends up benefiting the U.S. Why Wall Street (the financial sector) must be involved and give a brief overview of the CIA's control of drugs going back to the nightmare of Oliver North and the Contra smuggling scandal. We will look at the Clinton Scandal of smuggling through Mena, Arkansas, CIA involvement and then come quickly up to date with our ties to the Taliban during the Russian/Afghan war and our falling ot over their shut down of the drug industry in 2000.-("9. Although generally welcomed, the abrupt implementation of the Taliban ban on cultivation of opium poppy has removed the country's most remunerative cash crop, which has caused a major income loss both to direct cultivators, and perhaps more significantly to the migrant agricultural labourers who previously travelled to South-West and South-East Afghanistan to perform labour-intensive work on the opium crop. An estimated 480,000 workers have been deprived of earnings from poppy, and the farm-gate income foregone is estimated to be in the region of $100 million. Urgent action is required by the international community to support the rehabilitation and crop substitution efforts of the United Nations in those areas. " This is a quote from the United Nations General Assembly Dec. 2001)
Immediately after we invaded Afganistan known drug Lords were put back in tribla authority and the lastest figures at the U. N. state- Documentation on the way, Monday.

We'll look at the Pax Americana blueprint for the invasion of Iraq. Documented strategies for Iran and Saudi Arabia, Peak Oil and the whole chess game to control rapidly dwindling oil reserves.

As oil goes so goes the world.

I'll give you what you want , now you start paying attention to the headlines. It is all going as planned.

You can be sure of one thing- history is not accidental.

If something major happens it was part of an intelligent process.

Those who print the money control the world.

 

Oh yeah forgot to mention that prior to the Taliban opium ban I will show that the Taliban and CIA worked hard together, they are allied. And now that the drug Lords are going strong again Afganistan is the world leading exporter of opium once again. (They held the record in 1999 of about 400 tonnes annually- today we are breaking the record and may top 2000 tons)

 

why do i get the feeling rhester is typing this from a fortified bunker under his parents house?

Nice derailment, by the way... that oil connection was pretty far fetched.

 

No bunker guy here.
I'm a big Rocket fan. A manager at a company in Houston and I pastor a small church. I was a pastor at a large church prior to going back into the workforce.

I have 6 great children, and have been happily married 30.5 yrs.

We are Christian, basic average type middle class. We don't own any guns except the old 410 I use to kill snakes and the .22 my sons don't use cause they don't like to 'hunt'.

I am pretty basic bible, don't consider myself the far right, I am not very political though I vote republican.

No survivalist, patriot, militia mentality. I go more for evangelism and being a good husband and father. My favorite book is the Bible and I like Ray Comfort. Haven't scored up for Armageddon and don't aspire to the wacko militia survivalist stuff at all.

I do love truth, to a fault. I realize I am not the source of it and don't pretend that my opinions are THE truth.

But I love truth and to a fault I hate deception. So when politicians say one thing and do another or the government no longer even knows how the constitution reads or I read something that challenges the spin of the media or else I take note.

I like to hear all views. You can always learn.

I do have a great desire to not be deceived about things. I love the movie the Matrix because it is easy to be deceived and that is the first premise of the movie.

I hate deception.

Now - as I have been challenged- primarily by reading a book by chance called Crossing the Rubicon. I had to either go after the documentation in this book or blow it off. I chose to go after it.

I have been reading, studying and researching now for 7 months.

I have stacks of research- best documentation I could find. It became a hobby for me. It was fun. But what I found was deadly serious.

About 50% of what I have piled in my study that I was digging through is gargage. Pure sensationism conspiracy theory propaganda garbage.
But now that other 50% is credible, legitimate and shocking.

If anyone wants to wade through garbage and truth until the truth is clean off and checked out and stands out like a lighthouse. You can go to work and find out alot of interesting things.

Start with well documented books. Warning - the internet has some good references but much is not easily documented and verifiable.

What I mean is go to offical records that are public documents and find out what is going wrong here.

I will continue to be just an ordinary Rocket fan, father husband and pastor, I'm not crying out the sky is falling the antichrist is so and so, or any such thing. But I get great personal satisfaction knowing I am not duped by the global bank cartel or their cronies.

My Congressman is Ron Paul. He is the only conservative in congress I trust. I know him personally. He is a Dr. (gyno) he delivered my third son and he loves America and is a strict constitutionalist. Go to his website and search his articles over the past few years. Read them. I have had many discussion with him to understand how our Government works today, why we are pushing for globalism and socialism in America. He has a wealth of knowledge and has backed up for me most of the research and conclusions I have drawn.

First dot will come Monday, sorry I type to fast, have to get home.

 

Looking forward to seeing your research and documentation, rhester. In particular, I am interested in learning what your research has yielded in terms of who exactly controls the money supply (I'm wondering if the answer will be a well-known banking family whose name begins with R).

 

In 10 years we will see the results
How many RICH Iraqi's will there be on the ground floor
and Look to see if they are in with the Admin

Will the Average Iraqi live like the Average Kuwaiti
or
the Average pick ya random african nation

Rocket River

 

Sorry, I post from work and this week I have to work.

Where do you start with piles of books, articles and interviews?
I don't think I have time but I will post as I can. Let the name calling begin, this could take a long time to establish credibly.

I did read over some things over the weekend.

Starting with drugs- CIA has a long history of involvement, I really don't think drugs could be a problem in the world without the CIA support. CIA is too strong.

Remember the Contra scandal with drug smuggling and CIA inspector general Frederick Hitz poor attempt to defend the agency? Read Congresswoman Maxine Water's testimony in congress and then read this recap by reporter Robert Parry.

It is just one small dot. But getting started you need to go back and look at the Contra scandal because it is so obvious that the CIA was smuggling drugs from Central America.

http://www.house.gov/waters/31698pr.htm

Mr. Parry's article compliments Congresswoman Water's remarks in congress. There are a couple very good research works on the Contra Scandal. All in all if you are old enough you will remember the hearings and the scandal over the CIA and drug smuggling.

This gets us started into understanding the importance of controlling the #1 producer of opium in the world- Afghanistan.

Mr. Parry's article- http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/CIADrugConfession.html

I think I'll give up and surrender- have about 500 or so dots to connect just on drugs including all the federal investigations and testimony.

Next time I can post I will share some stuff just on Afghanistan

Here is a tidbit- "Dec. 2001 US and Pakistan broker deal to release opium drug lord Ayub Afridi from prison. Afridi is important because he is able to rally other drug lords- Commanders such as Haji Abdul Qadeer, Haji Mohammed Zaman and Hazrat Ali, in an effort to assist the U.S. operations." (Asia News, Dec. 2001)

BTW, Afridi worked with the CIA in the resistance against Russia in the war in Afghanistan up until 1989.

So much to do, this is too big for a forum and will take so long.

I will try to send out info on articles, testimony, books and links if I can find time and if anyone is interested.

 

Yeah, the Iraq war was ALL about oil... that's why gas prices jumped 35 cents last night. Thank god we're raping their oil...

 

If it was about all, it wasn't about making gas prices cheaper. It was about making money for the oil companies. So the fact that gasoline prices are high, has little to do with whether the war was about oil or not.