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[War] Trump declares war on Iran for regime change

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Feb 28, 2026 at 1:53 AM.

  1. Ubiquitin

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    Dude, if you think there's a large portion of Iran operating on Islam, you genuinely don't know anything about Iran. It would be like me saying most Americans are acting according to the bible.

    Most Iranians associate Islam with the mullah. They hate the mullah and detest Islam for the most part because the Mullahs use it as the justification for their rule. They have never followed the brand of Islam you or the Mullahs call Islam. Literally never. It's foreign to them. Iranians are the least Islamic people in the entire middle east.

    There are no large uneducated portions of Iranian society. You are thinking of some ass backwards population somewhere else probably and extrapolating that it must not be that different.

    There's always a 20-30% subset of the population that support the mullah. They do this not because of Islam but because the Mullahs selectively subsidize the cities and regions from which they want the most soldiers. They constantly give them free **** and bail them out of all debts. Before fake elections, they flood these regions with free money.

    If you want to narrow down to people who spiritually worship the Mullahs leadership, you're talking about 5% of the population or less.

    It's ok to not understand Iran. No one has taught you and you don't have enough time to research Iran that well. I'm sure you would rather know the truth than to win a debate so I hope this helps.
     
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  3. Amiga

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    OP’s title is wrong. The U.S. has not declared war. Only Congress can declare war, and Congress has not declared war.
     
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    Trump called it a war not me
     
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    Yep that fool thinks Iranians don't drink (alcohol) Lol.
     
  6. Amiga

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    Trump is not "US"
     
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    But it's not ALL OUT war.
     
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    No wars lol.

    If Trump said something in his campaign, he meant the opposite.
     
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    Trump is calling for regime change. I thought he campaigned against America being involved in regime change.

    Trump now pushing for regime change in multiple places around the globe.
     
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    No, wars.
     
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    Yep, Trump is a con artist. He became one of them (politician).
     
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    Captured pretty much everything I'm thinking.
     
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    The only thing that has kept Iranians from killing themselves is music, food, alcohol and drugs. Very similar to the Lebanese. Totally secular and progressive populations caught in a nightmare proxy war.
     
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    Any Trump supporter who ever pretends to give a **** about the constitution should be laughed at instead of argued with.
    POTUS has unilaterally declared “all out war” without being attacked and has stated the purpose is regime change.

    you can want regime change in Iran, but supporting Trump now is supporting regime change in America. We are in the verge of total collapse of constitutional system.
     
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    So they "never" followed that brand of Islam, but these majority stood by as the secular Pahlavi was overthrown for being deemed un-Islamic? It happened in Shia Iran and not a relatively secular place like Sunni Turkey for a reason.

    There many books covering this in depth - the rise of a theocratic Islamic government during the 1979 Islamic revolution after overthrowing Shah Pahlavi's secular, Western oriented rule. The New Golden Age is one I read last month.

    That revolution was led by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, a senior Shia cleric who argued that the Shah’s secular, Western-oriented rule was illegitimate and un-Islamic. A nationwide referendum soon after showed overwhelming support for replacing the monarchy with an Islamic Republic, and the new constitution was approved.

    The key idea behind Iran’s theocracy is a concept developed and championed by Khomeini that holds that in the absence of the infallible Imam (in Shia Islam doctrine), a qualified Islamic jurist (faqih) should oversee the entire community and government. Religious leaders (specifically faqih) should have ultimate supervisory authority because they interpret and protect Islamic law.

    Muslim society has never had a secular age of intellectuals. They colonized the entire Middle East in the name of Islamic authoritarianism. There's always been vocal crowds who have a hatred for anyone who promotes anything materialistic and can be deemed unIslamic like Pahlavi. They will kill themselves and others in the name of maintaining the Islamic order.

    The only thing that deradicalizes them is exorbitant amounts of oil money as we see in the UAE and Saudi - locals can see it's impact first hand. But in a large country where everyone doesn't get a piece of the pie, the religious mullahs control the voting blocs and thus stay in power.

    You can see this same strategy being implemented in the UK as we speak. My point, which you intentionally misconstrued, was that Pahlavi hasn't been able to communicate with these religious voting blocs since the 70s so they won't have confidence that change will be better for them. Ultimately action has to be taken by the Iranians, not the US.
     
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    Way to embarrass FIFA…
     
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    He DID say, 'Let's do this again (and again)' after the Venezuelan military operation. If THAT'S what he's doing, it would be: capture the Iranian leader or kill him, declare victory, then leave and let Iran's second-in-command or whoever is left take power. Shiny news coverage while not much actually changes.
     
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    What did it cost? Everything. Meme.jpg
     

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