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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  1. albuster

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    Indeed. But it is up to Ime to draw up an offense that exploits this kind of defense. It is quite clear now that opponents have a defensive man who hardly leaves Reed, and they swarm KD and Alpi when they get the ball. So, someone must often be open to take the shot, but KD and Alpi need to be alert and move the ball to get to the open man.
    It is quite amazing that there are consistently anti-Reed posts, while constantly comparing him to other players who have been in the league much longer. They overlook the fact that the kid is barely in his first year of consistent playing time. It is almost like oozing with prejudice, which I hope is not the case.
     
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  2. Rokman

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    Sheppard
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    That's a Clapton reference for you youngins out there.
     
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  4. LosPollosHermanos

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    Before we got Lowry and he played on Memphis I just remember him decelerating and using his ass to plant guys on the floor. Was always like damn he’d be good with us

    Reed does need to get thicc af
     
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    Reed hits 2 straight 3s, then to the bench you go !!!

    **** IME.

    DD
     
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  7. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    I think you're wrong chief?

    Mine is from NBA.com and it explicitly counts all midrange by entire zone: https://www.nba.com/stats/players/shooting?DistanceRange=By+Zone

    You can find it your self by going to NBA official stats page > Advanced > Shooting > then select "By Zone". You can see "Midrange" already fully calculated there.

    Also can be seen at the link @J.R. provided if you had just scrolled down a little bit. It's in the section called "Shot Area" under which you can see "Mid-Range".

    Reed is 36.4% from midrange at both of those pages. He's exactly 32 of 88 from midrange. At the same link, you can see Jalen shot 36.2% last season from midrange at almost double the volume.

    If there's a reason I should use any other place in the world to directly calculate his midrange %, I'm all ears. I believe the place I chose is where everyone gets their official midrange stats.
     
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  8. Easy

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    Got to trade for that 2040 pick.
     
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  9. Easy

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    Do you know the definition of "midrange" there? I don't know how you can be above 40% in all the distance ranges inside the arc and end up having a "midrange" average at 36%. That doesn't make any mathematical sense.
     
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  10. Mathloom

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    Actually, it does. Copy/pasting cause it's a lot to type:

    And because he's only taking 1.6 attempts and you're splitting them into tiny samples without weighting them, it can definitely be skewed that way.
     
  11. Easy

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    It seems that they artificially divide "midrange" and "paint" zone. It's kind of like the political redrawing the districts to artificially magnify certain population in certain areas. When it comes to shooting, who cares whether the guy is inside the "paint" or not. Distance is more important.
     
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  12. Mathloom

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    It's kind of a historical standard, but I can see why you would prefer it that way.

    I think put yourself in different situations and maybe you'll see the benefit. For example, if there was a team who's paint has been packed for 4.5 years and their coach refuses to address the problem then you would become very interested in who can make midrange shots as they're traditionally defined.

    It's also important because in our minds we have a database of people who's midrange %'s we've heard about or who the stat nerd podcasts tell us are excellent in midrange, and so we need a number which is easy to compare with those.

    Splitting the numbers into distances has always been problematic. It's the main reason people thought Amen was killing it from midrange last season. Floaters and push shots were driving that number. This season, we see the significance of it.

    It also helps to understand just how insanely historically elite Durant is at midrange shots. For midrange, he's shooting 49.8%. No paint, no floaters, no hook shots, nothing. Just pure midrange and he's making almost half. To put that in perspective:

    Jabari 36.9%
    Reed 36.4%
    Sengun 33.3%
    Amen 27.3%
    Tari 25%

    That lets you compare and understand the numbers directly as they specifically relate to how good a jump shooter someone is. Historically people who we say are good at midrange are around 45% or better on this number.
     
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    Thanks for the explanation. I still think it's an antiquated way of categorizing shots.
     
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    Did you not watch the game? Even the box score would tell you otherwise. The game was lost when we benched Sheppard
     
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    It was a joke, although Alvarado outplayed Reed in this game. His 5 steals, 4 assists and clutch 3 pointer trumps Reed’s contribution. They both played the same number of minutes. Alvarado was a beast on defense and sparked the Knicks comeback.

    We should have gotten him at the deadline. Had we picked him up, we could have moved Reed into the starting lineup and brought Tari and Alvarado off the bench. Reed has to have Amen, because of his defensive limitations, Alvarado does not. Benching Reed was stupid, but acting like that is the sole reason we lost this game is hyperbole. It was the same story as all year. Ime wants Sengun and Durant to run the offense in the 4th quarter and they both suck at it. He also stopped doubling Brunson for some inexplicable reason.
     
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    A 5’11” PG going 3-9 from the field, 1-5 from 3 didnt out play Reed because he got a steal from KD et al (who give up passes and turn it over every game). It might as well have been me out there getting steals. Benching Reed absolutely sealed the fate, he was generating open looks just about every play. Teammates not converting including DFS on an open layup is not on him.

    the coaching cutting his legs at the end of the game and not even allowing him to play the clutch dosnt allow for the clutch minutes to even be a valid comparison between the two.

    you are giving Alvarado too much credit and forgetting Ime gift wrapped the Knicks this game particularly where are as you also noted he went away from exactly what was working because he has a hard on for defense only players
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Consider the source and don't take it seriously.
     
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    Alvarado was 2-5 on threes. He had 5 steals not just one on Durant. Basketball is played on 2 sides of the floor. I agreed it was stupid to pull Reed and feature DFS, but you are underrating Alvarado’s contribution for the Knicks in this game.

    The main point is that Stone could have easily solved one of our weaknesses by adding another guy that can handle the ball and plays defense as well as FVV, if not better. Amen was also excellent at initiating the offense this game and had 7 assists and 11 expected assists. Tari is coming back to Earth with his 3 pt shooting and should be coming off the bench. It’s time to start Amen and Reed together and let them share the initiation role. Fans are always pitting the two against each other, whereas they have great synergy together and should be on the floor together 30 mins a game.

    The Durant and Sengun centric offense is an abomination and does nothing to further our odds of getting past the first round. If nothing else we should be evaluating how Amen and Reed can work as our backcourt next year, since we all know, including the GM, that this is not our year.
     
  20. Mathloom

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    This is the only lineup they haven't given serious minutes to and it's the only lineup that can work imo:

    Sengun
    Durant
    Tari
    Amen
    Sheppard

    Energy, pace, transition, shooting all improve. The defense will not regress as much as the offense would improve.

    Come on.
     
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