KD burner account found of him talking bad about his teammates in gc

no lies were told in these texts about Sengun and Jabari. Especially Jabari. His elite skill was supposed to be shooting and he can’t shoot. He needs to be gone. Wonder what we can get for him and Durant in the offseason?

 

Lol!! Who cares if he denies it? You don't trust him to begin with! If his lack of credibility is part of the reason you're suspecting it, then why would his denial have credibility???

This is all so strange dude. A boatload of weak evidence does not become good evidence.

There's no reason to think it's true. You can't live a rational life if people can drag you into believing things with a flimsy screenshot.

It's ok to say you don't know. I swear to god you'll find out if it's true and there are no prizes for being right first. Whoever you say "I told you so" to will just say "ok sure". It's going to be very anti-climactic.

 

Thanks. I had just woken up after a long shift. Unfortunately, it's too late to Edit.

 

That's why I'm not really all that upset about it. Problematic for a locker room, but its not like it hasn't been done before by him, and he's carried on before.

I believe Jabari will be a valuable high end role player and have a long career. However, it's not the end of the world if you need to trade him. I see alot of what Al Horford brought to teams in what I think Jabari could be... however that's a complementary (albeit important) piece. You need to have the core pieces before it really matters what type of Jabari like players you complete your roster with.

I keep going back to Sengun and Amen... THAT is the big future question you need to ask, and get an answer to first. That is your future. You need to figure out if either are capable of developing enough to play together, who you find a better player long term, and then build around which ever player while being able to use whatever players you have left (like Jabari, etc.) assuming you do trade one or the other.

KD is just not a significant concern for me... and Jabari only kind of is... just depending on how much he is needed past this year depending on what kind of team we are going to have.

 

Jabari isnt going anywhere.

Amen Thompson. Reed Sheppard. Jabari Smith Jr. These are the core of this rebuild. They arent going *anywhere* unless they are stripping it down and starting over. If Sengun suddenly hits FTs at 80% or 3s at 35% then you can put him in there as well.

 

By the same account, since none of Amen, Reed, or Jabari manage Sengun's 6.3 assists per game, why are they part of the rebuild?
If Amen actually makes a respectable living at the 3 point line (he won't).....?
If Jabari plays 3-point defense well (he won't).....?

I would agree with you on who could stay and who could go but for different reasons. Ime is no fan of Sengun. Never has been. Unless Tilman eats the rest of Ime's contract (he won't), Sengun makes for the most valuable trade piece.

 

Trade sengun for elite pg or center

 

As long as we’re trading non-elite guys for elite ones, can we also trade Jabari for an elite player? How about Tate or Holiday? We can build an all-elite team.

 

He can shoot, it's just that he's average at it (so far) not elite. I think trading him now would probably be selling low, but if somebody really likes him and makes a good enough offer of course he should be available.

 

He's never shot league average in any season though.

A guy who's hitting 1% below league average while being open on 80% of his shots honestly can't be considered average.

He's pretty definitively below average.

 

Jabari Smith is only 22 years old - but he is definitely not a good shooter, and I would say he isn't even average - but slightly below average at this point.

He is young enough that he could certainly become a good shooter -- but he has basically plateaued between last year and this one. In fact if you look at his stats the last 3 years, they are "okay" but not a lot of improvement.

I don't think Jabari is a very good player at this point - and is a bad fit with Amen and Sengun. That threesome is a huge part of the problem on offense, they destroy the spacing.

 

Probably a good topic for a separate thread about how we want to build this team for the future. If we are trading Sengun because him and Amen are incompatible because neither can shoot, IMO, I am looking at my best chances for being able to dominate teams by overwhelming with length, athleticism, speed, and shooting. I want a team that can switch everything, everyone can handle the ball, everyone (except for Amen of course) can shoot, and you can play with speed.

I just don't think a team built around Amen for the future really is going to be successful looking at traditional positions of need. I think you look at skills and physical attributes of need more than that.

But again... interesting topic, but one probably deserving of its own thread.

 

Zero doubt guys. Case closed. Thanks DD

 

I’m as critical of Bari as anyone. If someone made me bet on if he gets to 38% next yr and above that going forward, I might have to bet yes. That’s despite 4 yrs of disappointment. I have to keep reminding myself that he’s 22yrs old.

I have big concerns with Bari’s processing and low bball IQ. I am terrified when he puts the ball on the floor or passes. He’s bad at those things. He may never be good at those things. His defense is very inconsistent which is why I can’t understand Ime’s comfort-level with him. Add to that his poor shooting, it’s really hard to get excited about Bari. He’s a very limited player.

but we’ve committed to him long term at not insignificant money. I don’t think all of the time, effort, money, commitment will pay off big. But I do think he’ll be a good shooter by the time he’s 24.

All this is to say, he’s way over-valued by the org. I would be fine trading him. But I do think there’ll be at least a 38% 3 pt shooter and a good defender at the end of the rainbow. We shouldn’t be clutching bari like pearls, but it mostly depends on how long your team build timeline is. If it’s longer, keeping bari is fine. If you are in a win-now the next 2yrs (why else would you make a trade for KD) then Bari doesn’t fit.

 

KD tells it like it is.

There is nothing that he said about Rocket players that hasn't been thought by fans a thousand times before.

I get it that no one wants to have a teammate point out their short comings, but maybe they use it as motivation or grow up.

Jabari Smith needs to get his own burner - "r****diSmith" where he can tweet about KD's bald spot and scandalous behavior.

 

He has been right around league average for his position (power forward) every season except his rookie season. He's also been above average for number of attempts/makes. Anyway, even by the league wide standard for all positions combined, calling him "below average" when he is within less than one percent of that number is a little overboard IMO. He's far closer to average than he is to being downright bad.

But it's kind of arguing semantics. I agree he should be better, but I don't see him as a salary dump guy given his age. I'd trade him without qualms in the right deal though.

 

Yeah the thing thats going on is that KD is b**** to his teammates and has been everywhere he goes. He is perpetually unhappy eventhough the entire offense is all about him and he's getting paid millions. It doesnt matter he's like a less successful Lebron James. And Lebron's last three years has been more drama than success and we brought that **** to Houston.

 

Better question is... does Jabari spread the floor, or is he another liability allowing the other team the ability to focus on protecting the paint from Amen's drives, Sengun post ups, etc.?

Sometimes reputation, and respect in the gameplan plays a bigger part in winning that individual stats of role players.

As I've said here a couple times today, if we think Amen is the future for this team (and Reed to a certain point I guess), I think we have to value as a longterm piece Jabari's ability to complement him as a switchable defender, and having the ability to stretch the floor so Amen can attack the basket.

I sound like a broken record here, but I just really hope the questions the Rockets front office is asking isn't about making decisions based on these things we are talking about today, but instead come back to the central question of the future of this team being built around Amen, and Sengun... and what needs to happen long term to build around one, or both of these guys.

I suspect the Rockets front office believes Amen is the guy they want to build around in a year or two after the KD/FVV experiment expires, and I could see Jabari's switchability, and versatility on offense being a pretty important fit alongside an Amen led fast, versatile, athletic, Amen Rockets team.

Just my hunch though if I had to predict. I would bet the Rockets love what Jabari will be for them in a couple seasons when KD/FVV/Adams are retired, or expiring contracts are traded.