This Is Going To Be An Interesting Summer

I dont even get being disapointed as for his age he is on par to be a superstar one day. And Im not just saying that Senguns numbers are better than a lot of allstar bigs at the same age. They just dont know that. For some reason these dumb ****s think if youre not a superstar by 22 you'll never be one lol

 

I personally would go further and just say Amen isn't a PG and shouldn't be used as one. At least not unless he can develop a jumpshot. I still like him as a swiss army knife forward, the role he mostly played last year. But that's more like a 3rd guy on a contender than a guy you build around.

 

Legit

 

Isn't an "elite non-shooting PG" like "military intelligence" or "jumbo shrimp"?

 

I don't define wings that way, I consider Dwayne Wade a wing too.

Myles Turner would be fine I guess, he was at least good enough to be on a Finals team last season. Let's say he's the baseline but I think we can do better. If you're trading Sengun, then you don't have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for a stretch 5 who can protect the rim. You get good assets in exchange for someone who has made the All Star game the last 2 seasons (even if fringe All Star in your eyes) before they've even entered their prime.

I never said to dump the entire C rotation, not sure why you think that.

 

Just play some simple man - LS

 

You're the one being a child. Your posts are like digital temper tantrums. Chill. It's not that serious. Agree to disagree and move on, bro.

 

I think the fans are over critical on still a young group of players who were drafted 3-4 years ago.

Durant is not the future for these young players, yet if they don't get a ring with KD and FVV, all hell is going to happen.

Rockets in 3 years can use those guys money and future draft picks to put around Sengun when he turns 25 in year 27-28 season. No rush..

Just over jealous fan base we have in Houston, very impatient folks..lol

 

**** YOU You just want to let anyone just make anything up about our players. Likely because you do it yourself. Sorry youre gonna get called a liar when you lie. Dont give a **** what you think.

 

Nope it’s Jason Kidd or Magic Johnson in their early years. There are others, Dennis Johnson, Cade Cunningham, Jalen Suggs, Stephen Castle is improving slowly. He’s only been starting for 1 1/2 years and only 1/2 year as a part-time guard, already improved his FT shooting and floaters. Before the end of the year, I think he’ll be decent jump shooter from 15 feet or so. My predictions are just as good as the naysayers. None of us know if and when he will be a good shooter. Some just choose to sh*t on our young players, because of a lack of patience or other personal short-comings.

 

All due respect, but this is just bu11sh!t. If you look at players from this century, Jason Kidd shot 37% from 3 in his third year, Cade shot 35.5%, and Suggs shot 39.7%. Meanwhile Amen is currently at 20.5%, down 7% from last year - he's going the wrong way. And I've seen all of those guys play - whether as distributors or scorers, Kidd, Cade, and Suggs have always had a deeper bag than Amen. This is just grasping at straws.

 

Guess I should’ve done more homework on Suggs and Cade. You didn’t mention Dennis Johnson who hardly ever took 3 pointers and never made it to 30% or Magic Johnson who shot under 30% the first 9 years of his career. Kidd was terrible his first year and had mulitple poor seasons shooting 3’s. Suggs and Cade did improve quickly which doesn’t really make your point very well. Guys develop their shots at different paces and also are in different situations. Amen was in the so-called dunker spot coming off the bench for the first year and a half of his career. The point is you have written off the guy after 1/2 year as a guard of ever being able to get a shot. I’m done arguing with you over it, so you can have the last word.

 

Magic Johnson? Dennis Johnson? No one shot 3pters in their era, which is why the NBA moved the line in 1994.

And Amen has always been Fred's backup at PG. That's why Reed was sent to the G-League last year. Amen was drafted as a PG. To suggest that this is his first year playing PG isn't true.

Straws...

 

Pointing out success stories without also incorporating the failures is very faulty logic.. If you have to go back to Dennis Johnson to make your case, then you are already accepting that all the more recent guards with these issue have failed. Because if they had succeeded, you would know these players and use them as examples instead.

 

I'm a bit older .... I remember those years before Ralph & Akeem. Trading away an MVP in Moses Malone only to watch him win the Championship and Finals MVP the following year ....

Tanking was different back then, no lottery. Now you need a little luck in two ways - not only does there have to be a franchise player, but you have to win the lottery to get that guy. We weren't so fortunate, San Antonio hit on Wemby , moved up 1 spot to get Castle and moved up from 9th to get Harper at 2. OKC hit on Chet .... Dallas moved up from 10th to get Flagg.
Atlanta moved up 9 spots and ended up with Risacher .... Charlotte got Brandon Miller, Portland Scoot Henderson. All underwhelming ....

Being honest, I think the expectations on Jabari were just too high, coming into that team - shitty coaching, shitty point guard play .... for a guy who needed others to create open looks.
Jabari is no superstar but he's a good player who fits on just about any roster in the league. He's a solid piece, not the foundation. He kinda reminds me of a taller Trevor Ariza, can't dribble, can't drive but he can shoot, rebound fairly well and defend and he's consistent, rarely does he have a stinker of a game. Sure, you could upgrade from Jabari, but it would take a star to do so and at what cost?

The guy hasn't even turned 23 yet .... how many times did we hear that about Jalen - He's only X and the only thing he was consistent at was being inconsistent.

Most are looking for the expectations, the flash .... I'm cool with Jabari just being consistently solid. We'll find that star eventually.

 

The closest relatively recent ones would be, from youngest to oldest, John Wall (24.3% three point percentage his first three seasons), Russell Westbrook (27.4%), and Derrick Rose (30.9% due to a big third year leap, but his first two seasons were a combined 24.9%).

Now, you could say those three guys failed in the sense that they never won a championship, but two of them did win MVP awards and John Wall was a 5x All-Star and 1x All-NBA.

Ben Simmons, for all the comparisons to him, was actually significantly worse as a shooter than Amen at the same experience level / age, at 8.3% on just 24 total three point attempts his first three seasons; he also was a much worse FT shooter (59.3% from the stripe) and midrange shooter. I think there's still some hope Amen might eventually learn to shoot it, although the odds aren't great. Simmons was as hopeless as I've ever seen.

 

Bringing KD at this stage in a rebuild was absolutely a mistake. KD is not Harden he doesnt not teach young guys. He's not a mentor and has never been a leader. Thats not an attack its just the truth. At this stage in our rebuild it wasnt needed to go out and get a perpetually disgruntled 37 year old shooter. Now your entire offense revolves around a guy who wont be here in two years as your young guys are growing and actually need to learn to be alphas and not to defer. It was a mistake and it becomes clearer day by day that it will cost us for trying to shortcut a rebuild for a name.

 

Its coaching. He was beasting at the start of the season but then Ime got to him and this is the result. If you trade Sengun I fear without Ime we will see how truly good he is and Clutchfans will be eating crows just like the guys telling me last summer that getting KD was a great idea.