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The SAVE Act

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by cml750, Feb 4, 2026.

  1. Space Ghost

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    the fact is the majority of americans support voter id. Perhaps you should be cincerned why democrats politicians are si against it.

    question: do you believe anyone who is in this country regardless of citizenship, should be allowed to participate in our elections?
     
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  2. ThatBoyNick

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    This is a hard deflection and evasion of my response. What does that fact have to do with a purposely broken bill being written/introduced and then passed by 220 members of the house?

    I'm guessing because they are concerned it will make it harder for citizens to vote (like, exactly how the SAVE act would do) for virtually no benefit?

    I don't have a problem with voter ID at all if it can be done properly, but at the same time I can't for the life of me understand this constant ambiguous claim that illegals are allowed to vote(or are fast tracked to citizenship to vote) and or that we have mass voting fraud. How do illegals vote? Where is the proof? Im ignorant and am asking for the education.

    No
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I have no problem calling out racism from the left. As far as Democrats being the party of slavery and Him Crow why would you write so so disingenuous?

    We all know what happened when Democrat LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act
     
  4. Amiga

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    The SAVE Act will not see the light of day. If it does, millions of eligible voters would be forced to obtain additional documents. It is unconstitutional. New Hampshire and Kansas have tried similar laws, and the courts ruled against them, striking them down for violating the 14th Amendment.

    But we already have a federal "SAVE" tool that is incorrectly identifying citizens as non-citizens.


    SAVE tool keeps mistakenly flagging voters as noncitizens - The Texas Tribune

    According to correspondence between state and federal officials, DHS has had to correct information provided to at least five states after SAVE misidentified some voters as noncitizens.

    Texas and Missouri were among the first states to try the augmented tool.

    In Missouri, state officials acted on SAVE’s findings before attempting to confirm them, directing county election administrators to make voters flagged as potential noncitizens temporarily unable to vote. But in hundreds of cases, the tool’s determinations were wrong, our review found. Lennon was among dozens of clerks statewide who raised alarms about the system’s errors.
     
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  6. JuanValdez

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    Here's my proposed version of the SAFE Act, if we really need to be passing anything at all. When I see what passed, I don't see they've given much thought to creating a working operational pathway to ubiquitous citizenship voting.

    1. By the end of 2035, all voter registrations for federal elections must have documentary proof of citizenship.

    2. By the end of 2027, the federal passport office is adequately funded and staffed to produce passport cards for all applying citizens for free. (The processes already exist, so it would just be a matter of scaling up.) (If the passport card idea is odorous, we could instead augment the REAL ID standard so that state IDs do indicate citizenship and provide funding for free state IDs (but maybe not driver's licenses).)

    3. The primary method of proving citizenship for voter registration is a passport book or card. Secondary, a photo ID plus a birth certificate, plus perhaps a marriage certificate or other document to show a name change.

    4. Government issued photo ID is required at ballot boxes to prove identity before casting vote (but citizenship does not need to be proven again). The usual fallbacks when a voter cannot produce an ID.

    5. Fund and launch a public awareness campaign informing citizenry of coming stricter standards for voter registration and for the free passport cards.

    6. Fund a robust and free Ombudsman Office to assist citizens in acquiring the passport card and registering to vote, if they need help. Ombudsman can source birth and other certificates from the states to inform the passport application. Create a judicial pathway to get a declaration of citizenship from a judge that the ombudsman can help the citizen navigate -- for the hard cases where perhaps a birth certificate does not exist.

    7. No penalties for bureaucrats who fail in their duties, but create a transparent framework of oversight in which published metrics measure error rates for both illegal registration to vote and improper denial of the voting franchise. Those improperly denied the right to vote have standing to sue the state for monetary damages. (Bureaucrats, of course, can be fired for poor performance.)

    8. Voter roll audits may be conducted and the affected voters must provide documentary proof of citizenship to remain on the rolls. However, the state must conduct a public awareness campaign that an audit is being done and disclose the criteria for flagging registrations. And the state must make sufficient effort to contact and inform the specific affected voters. Those voters must be given access to the Ombudsman and ample time to provide proof before being removed (say, one year) and remain eligible to vote until then. By the end of 2035, all voter registrations must be so audited.

    9. Simple changes to registration, like a change of address, do not trigger increased documentation requirements.

    (10. Not essential to the reform, but I'd try to sneak this one in. No state may deny the right to vote in federal elections to those convicted of a crime.)
     
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  7. Space Ghost

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    I liked it because , he's such a **** stirrer it's admirable . I think overall it's had a negative impact on the country , but I can't hate him for that.

    Obama might've been impeached if he said something like this

    In regards to the save act , I've heard valid criticisms , but I'm not opposed to the idea of photo is for voters in person .

    My question even before this has been why the hell do I have to register to vote ? I'm a citizen , I've got ID . Why can't I just stroll in on election day and vote ? That seems un democratic to me
     
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    Sooo they are closing down passport processing at libraries….
     
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    Imagine if a democratic admin said this ****?
     
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    Americans agree with Nicki Minaj when it comes to voter id.

    But what does Ja Rule think?
     
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    The right to bear arms is also a right granted by the Constitution yet nobody has an issue with needing an ID to purchase one along with all the background checks and such.
     
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    DaDakota Arrest all Pedophiles
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    There is near ZERO level of fraud, the only fraud is the pedophile in the whitehouse.

    DD
     
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    Sounds like an argument in favor of free IDs for every citizen
     
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  19. cml750

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    I would have no issues with that as long as it comes with verified proof of citizenship to acquire an identification. Anyone who is not a citizen is not entitled to the right to bear arms or the right to vote. Any identification provided to a non-citizen should be clearly marked in big letters that they are not citizens and they should should have to pay for the identification.
     
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