Men do you pay for everything in your relationship/marriage?

Not everyone is a 5* recruit

 

I would have asked her, "how are you traditional since you want a traditional man?"

There are far more provider-males than wives -- and some of those women are married (yeah, scary).

Society has allowed it and promotes it.... then calls it equality.

The system will also allow her to alienate the father, then when something hits the fan, blame the father for not being there.
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What's her OnlyFans ??? Lol
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Women who talk money like that are great because they're telling you exactly who they are.

There's so many things you could've said to make her feel straight-up, UGLY..... then you would've had her respect. The relationship might still fizzle out but the words will stick.

Remember this..... if a woman asks your occupation (especially the first few conversations)...... IT'S A RED FLAG.
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I don't think it's a red flag at all. It's what most adults ask each other after they meet.

 

Men ask after women ask. Women love asking about money first. It's not a fair exchange because women are not expected to spend.

 

No it isn't.

Occupation is important. It shows education level, it gives an idea of financial solvency, it shows what type of hours the person works and can give clues on a persons interest.

I would want a spouse or companion that would ask.

 

Still pretty subjective to the two people involved. This might be your experience and I respect that.

I do agree that single (or not satisfied with their current relationship) women are almost always looking for a long-term relationship.

Pretty much this. Your occupation/career is a lot of your life and says a lot about you, regardless of income.

 

Everything you mentioned can be done without asking. Observe.

People lie too. Observe.

 

That's just weird. Why would you observe someone to determine their occupation when you can just ask? Yes, you can infer a LOT about someone by watching their mannerisms, body language, speaking habits, etc, if you're an experienced communicator. But it seems weird to not have a casual conversation to determine basic facts.

I'll go one step further: work titles have an inordinate amount of influence on how you're treated in business settings, which is why there's a glut of 'vice presidents' in a lot of corporations. A shrewd businessperson will discount the title after a few minutes of discussion but it still gets a lot of feet in doors.

 

It isn't some deeply private secret, and it is WEIRD to get upset that a woman you want to date asks you what your profession is.

 

How about ... what is your 2025 AGI? That ok too?

 

*insert Rodney Dangerfield quote here*

 

I have never had a woman ask that - I have never had a woman ask how much I make before I have been dating her for months.

If I were dating and a woman had the balls to ask how much I make - I would probably tell her, I would be impressed she was confident enough to ask.

 

10 straight dates at the local McDonalds might give her the hint.

 

After giving this more thought: this is a microcosm of the level of entitlement that we have as a society in the USA. Pretty girls/women are raised to believe that they are something special because of their looks. Social media echo chambers reinforce this.

There's a level of truth to this but women who want to be princesses better understand that they will need to do a form of work to stay in the good graces of their sugar daddy or they will be traded in for a younger model as they age. Taking care of business in the bedroom, taking care of the kids, household, staying healthy, fit and attractive are very important to the type of men who just want someone to make them look good. They may think that locking a man up with kids will work but a man who wants and can afford arm candy won't care about the expense of child support, especially in Texas.

I find that the old adage 'Women age like beer, men age like wine' more and more true as I get older. Women like older men; men do not want older women.

 

In the USA? This is the case in most affluent societies. Spend some time in Europe and it is worse. Same with the Eastern part of the world.

The importance of the beauty of women by men is close to universal. The USA is ahead of the curve in shaming the behavior compared to what I have seen outside the USA.

It isn't necessarily about being a princess - it can be that they want to have a more traditional relationship where the husband is the financial provider and they will handle the home, children and/or social responsibilities. Many people are vain in their 20's and change when they get older.

It depends on the situation.

A wife that stays home but raises or raised children, is fairly emotionally supportive and runs the household is extremely important to many men, especially as they get older. Some of these men may end up having affairs or mistresses (although many do not), but in more traditional scenarios they often times do not divorce.

If you are talking about a "good time girl", then the relationship is typically only surface level and both sides get something out of it --- but usually men do not marry these women.

 

No problem asking someone what they do for a living. Yes problem asking someone how much they make.

 

Woman has 3 kids, 2 fathers, and never married...

Are you upset? No
Red flag? Yes

It's weird to introduce "upset" when talking red flags then doubling down by calling it weird.

What is weird is the fact "taking half" is as possible as it is.

Question answered next sentence.

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