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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Sep 29, 2025.

  1. SamCassell

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    My argument is that age-related decline is a real thing. Some players can bounce back for a good year. But more often than not, skills that have eroded don't magically improve. The metrics don't look good. Walker's, ironically, no longer walking. And he's whiffing at an unacceptable level. I don't think those things are magically coming back.

    I'm not saying it's impossible for Walker to have a better year. Nobody has a crystal ball. But you seem to think that it's unlikely his decline was age related and expect his late-season numbers to be the mark going forward, even though his BABIP was ridiculous during that stretch. It seems like fool's gold, to me.
     
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  2. Snake Diggit

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    Digging into the numbers, Walker’s bat speed and power don’t seem to have declined much if at all. He chased and whiffed more last season relative to 2021-2024, but it is very hard to know if that was related to a temporary mental lapse or some kind of age related decline. The success he had over the 2nd half of the season which came over a pretty substantial sample size has me believing there is a very real chance Walker’s struggles last year were a potentially temporary mental lapse rather than a permanent physical decline.
     
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    I wonder if the former hitting coach steered these players the wrong direction.
     
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    I hope it's not anything serious.
     
  5. Snake Diggit

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    Wtf here we go already
     
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  6. Major

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    There are other explanations though. For example, he joined a team that for the last decade has been near the bottom of the league every year in pitches-seen-per-at-bat, regardless of the roster makeup. Maybe they tried to push that aggressive philosophy on Walker and it didn't work well for him - if so, it could very well result in fewer walks and more whiffs. Again it's just a hypothetical.

    I never said that - I specifically stated that it's too early to know. I have no clue what to expect of Walker in 2026 or 2027. I do think valuing him as the worst version of himself when trying to decide whether to trade him would be dumb, though. It's a great way to consistently buy high and sell low. If you're going to have to pay money to get rid of him, I'd rather keep him and actually see if it was a fluke or not and maybe get more value rather than assume he's done and value him that way in a trade.
     
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    Ugh. I thought he was basically fine at the end of the year. Just we didn’t need him in the playoffs.
     
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    Maybe this is his normal ramp up.
     
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    And everyone around here wants to trade Abreu lol
     
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    That is quite the variance.
    Either trading him while paying off some of his salary (with only one year remaining) or releasing him and someone signing him for the minimum.
    I guess it comes down to how much you value walkers gold glove defense.

    It certainly seems since he came to Houston, his defense has been downplayed.
     
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    This opens an avenue for a deal headlined by Walker and Sean Murphy.

    The Braves have Matt Olsen but need RH bats and a DH, as well as a backup 1B.
     
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    Not sure why anyone is surprised with Hader. He had a shoulder capsule strain. It is very concerning. If he needs the surgery he will be out the whole year and the vast majority of pitchers that have that surgery lose velocity. If this goes bad he could easily become the new McCullers contract on the team.

    It also made sense to try and rehab it without surgery because if he had the surgery in September he could have still missed the 2026 season.
     
  15. Snake Diggit

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    It’s not surprising but it still sucks and it’s pretty damning of Brown and Espada because it is easy to draw the conclusion that he got hurt from overuse.
     
  16. Major

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    So the concern with keeping Walker is we can't get our best bats all in the lineup. The solution would be to trade him for a backup catcher who doesn't have a clear timetable for returning after major hip surgery? You get the same number of bats in the lineup, lose your universal rover that that's one of your best hitters and could easily have played 120 games, and added an injured backup catcher. How does this help the team?
     
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    Of course he got hurt from being misused.

    There have now been three prominent Astros relievers that have gone to management about Espada and how he handles his pen.

    Ultimately - Brown in the GM and he could have forced Espada not to pitch these guys more than in inning and he did not.
     
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    Astros reputation was built on the backs of Lunhow and a solid Click transition.

    Brown and Co have made almost every wrong move since.
     
  19. Nook

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    Click wasn't all that great either.

    He did some nice things like get Diaz - but he also traded Willy Abreu.

    It gets complicated because Luhnow had payroll and lots of high draft picks.

    Click inherited a better and deeper team than Brown.
     
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    They'd have to have a pretty good idea of Murphy's recovery timeline to pull the trigger there. They'd save about 5 mil this year (3/$45 versus 2/$40), which is significant when you're near the tax line. And they'd be trading down 4 years in age, although I'm not sure I want stock in catchers in their early 30s any more than I want stock in mid-30s 1B.

    Saying Walker is one of the Astros best hitters is theoretically true, since he was their 9th best hitter in 2025. I think I'd bet on both Dezenzo and Cam to pass him in 2026, given playing time, and Yainer should rebound given his age and prior production.
     
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