Rockets in the mix for Coby White

White has had a consistent level of play for a few years now. If we traded for him, he played like crap for a half season, and we somehow re-signed him to a $10M/year contract I am certain he would outplay it. Getting him on a $10M/yr contract would be a freaking bargain and I'd be ecstatic.

If White gets a $30M/yr off like Jordan Poole for instance, there is a good chance he becomes an albatross contract that greatly hampers our flexibility with the 2nd apron. I know a lot of GS fans and when Poole got that contract they weren't celebrating. They knew there was a huge chance that they overpaid. A player getting a big contract and us fans expecting them to live up to the contract are two different things. Jalen Green got a $105M extension from the Rockets. How many people here were happy about that?

 

Imagine being so desperate for guard help that you think Coby White is going to solve those problems. Give me Dunwoody for free all day long over giving anything of value for White. Or wait out the buyout season and see if CP3 is on there.

 

Don't count on CP3. He's done.

 

If White gets $30mil/yr because he played like Jordan Poole in the playoffs that ended in an NBA title, I am pretty whether or not the Rockets give him an albatross contract in the offseason would be the least of the Rockets fans worries.

 

Or he could get a big contract without winning us anything like Jalen Green. If you think White is the missing piece that's fine. But assuming White getting a big contract is automatically good news is optimistic. It's like you've never heard of a bad contract before.

 

Cody Whipe is the missing piece of a championship puzzle.

 

If you seen the GUARD PLAY the Rockets have been getting....Desperate times, calls for desparate measures

 

You really think he would get $35mil/yr contract with a Jalen Green like playoff performance? That would be 13/5/2 on 37% shooting and -10 net rating in a first round loss. If so you are smoking way better stuff that I am. If White wants $30mil and no one is giving it to him, why do you think he can somehow play worse this playoffs and get that money? That's not how logic works.

 

we have two NBA-caliber guards on the roster. One is a 6’2” sophomore Ime won’t play more than 20 minutes, and the other is Aaron Holiday. I think Amen has done an admirable job in the on-ball initiator role, but to me he’s not a guard. Our org doesn’t seem to think the guard skill-set matters. I think it’s a mistake but I’m readying myself for the org to continue ignoring guard at the deadline. I honestly don’t buy these Coby White rumors.

 

I think he can get a big contract without winning us a championship. Heck, he can play great and we still lose in the first round.

I'm not against trading for White or re-signing him. I just don't think him getting big contract is automatically great news. There have been tons of players who got contracts beyond their worth. In your mind, signing him to $10M is worst case scenario and signing him to $30M means he's going to earn it. I think the opposite. He is very likely to outplay a $10M contract and very unlikely to play up to a $30M contract. Who he has been the past three seasons is likely the level he will play at going forward, not whatever he does in the next four months.

 

I don't believe they don't think the guard skillset matters. The problem is that they just can't do a whole lot about it.

The real issue is FVV got hurt and they didn't have any backup plan aside from hoping Reed was ready and that Amen was in fact a guard- Both turned out to be false. Reed isn't ready and Amen isn't a guard.

In hindsight, they should have used the money they spent on DFS for a guard, hell they played the first 30ish games without him and didn't seem to miss him at all. He hasn't scored more than 8 points in a single game and is averaging less than 3 points per outing .... They can get that kind of production from Tate or Uncle Jeff.

That contract (DFS) is their best chance at solving their guard problems - he needs to go.

 

Missed the deadline. Did we get Colby Jack White yet? @Tfor3 @Jontro

 

Fred getting hurt was foreseeable. He had missed time both yrs with Houston, and substantial time prior to that. And he’s an older player. They also traded away Jalen and didn’t replace the position. They clearly didn’t prioritize the guard position. There were many of us who were hoping they’d add a guard in free agency.

 

I was one of those who wanted a guard in FA.

What I believe is that they were sold on Reed and Amen working out, they made statements regarding that prior to FVV's injury - That didn't happen. Reed has been up and down, inconsistent as Jalen was and Amen has shown he's not a guard at all, he just resembles one in transition but when it becomes a half court game, he's a forward.

I'm pretty sure they know they need a competent guard, problem is they are very limited in cap space and have to rely upon the trade market to solve that. They are further limited by FVV's effective no trade clause.
I think most of us would have traded him by now if we could have.

It really boils down to who they are willing to trade as to who / IF they actually make a move.

Minimum salary's aren't going to move the needle.

If they are willing to let Tari go, the best they can do is someone like Alvarado due to salary matching. I can't think of another guy in that salary range that's playable.

If they are willing to move DFS, their biggest tradable contract that isn't part of "the core", they can make a move in the $6-13m range. This includes guys like Ayo, Payton Pritchard or White among others. The right guy could even help them duck the tax .... IF they can reduce salary in that deal by $6.8m - but that's tough to do, there aren't many guys out there making sub $6m that can help them.

Also, what do these deals cost them in terms of draft picks - if teams are asking for an unprotected first, you tell them to kick rocks.
It may just play out that there isn't a deal out there that makes them better that doesn't come with a draft cost that's simply unacceptable.

If they can get Ayo for DFS straight up, I think we all do that deal but if the Bulls demand one or more unprotected picks, I think the tone changes, most of us don't do that deal. It may suck, but the team may be better served in the long run doing nothing.

We don't want the other teams holding us hostage because they know the team is desperate for guard help.

 

If White plays great in the 1st round and the Rockets lose, then the team has way bigger problems than whether or not they re-sign White. This team's talent should not be at a point where Coby White playing like a star for one round would result in them being eliminated. If they truly are, then the team probably needs wholesale retooling, not worrying about whether White is Jordan Poole or Jalen Brunson going forward.

 

Yes, along with Monterey Jack Black. A potent combo.

 

I wish we knew how FVVs PT sessions are going.

 

I'm not a big fan of the PG situation as it is, but I'd say the Rockets are doing very well with their starting PG hurt. Reed sucking for the last 18 games or so has been killer. DFS not being a help has hurt as well as the Rockets are short on defenders that can shoot to play with Reed. Granted, the one PG that had potential to help as an FA has been hurt as well, so the DFS signing is not really impacting the PG situation.

The Rockets really needed FVV, Amen, Durant, and Sengun to be healthy in the playoffs. Other teams with better stars have a smaller list, but the Rockets depended on good role players as well as their stars. The way Reed played through 30 or so games made me think that the Rockets might not need FVV. Not sure a PG would have played much until the last month or so even though the Rockets could use an option other than Reed at this point. I just don't know if things are looking good enough for the Rockets to do that.

The acquisitions of DFS, FVV, Capela, and Adams cost the Rockets 1 MLE and 1 SRP. I'm fine with the risk of the MLE and 1 SRP for that quartet as I thought it gave the Rockets a chance without risking much. FVV missing 20-25 games would not have been a problem. They could have added Ty Jerome instead of DFS maybe assuming he would sign with a team to be behind FVV, Reed, and Amen. Not sure that is a significantly better team, assuming he's sucked in the 2 games he's played.

 

Coby white comes here avg 11 ppg and scrubs out.
Pass no thanks!