Dillon Brooks wasn’t perfect…

Some people may be reactive but I have said this all along. I didn’t like the trade since it doesn’t solve our issues. Teams are still playing zone and we still struggle. Sengun opens up the court for shooters but they have to get used to playing without him. Even with him we have TO and spacing issues. Our issues are simple. 2 of 5 starters don’t stretch the floor. I can’t think of another NBA team that has 2 non 3 pt shooters in their starting unit.

 

i was stupid to think all those turnaround jumpers in the paint DB got when he was here should have been given to bari. DB was/is money with that janky TO jumper.

 

True but not a lot.

51% of our opponents last season were >= .500. This season so far 45% of our opponents were >= .500. But again, we had more road games.

 

i dont get the Bari hate. He isn’t the sole issue this team lost last night. He went 6-11 from 2 and his paint jumpshots and mid range was on last night.

 

I think the easiest way to illustrate my point on The Sengun Amen 2 non 3 pt shooter dilemma is imagine if:

OKC had Amen instead of williams

C - hartenstein
F - Chet
F - Amen
G - SGA
G - Dort

Spurs had Sengun instead of Wemby

C - Sengun
F - barnes
F - vassel
G - Castle
G - Fox

Do you think either of these teams would be as good as they are now or would they have the same spacing and scoring issues we currently have?

 

In both cases you are putting a far worse player in for a far better player, so of course the teams will be worse.

 

I wouldn’t say Sengun or Amen are far worse. Different skills and styles. The point is about spacing. Basketball isn’t about one player. Its about the combinations and pieces that fit and can execute together. Each example you have 2 non 3 pt shooters in the lineup. Castle is a terrible 3 pt shooter. If he didn’t have a stretch 5 in wemby that offense doesn’t work. Same with OKC. It would be compressed and teams would zone up just as they do with us. There would be scoring droughts and stalled offense.

2 non shooters in the starting 5 doesn’t work

 

I don't disagree, but those 2 are absolutely worse than the ones they'd be replacing, so the teams would absolutely be worse. There aren't any non shooting centers better than wemby since only jokic is better and idk who's a better wing than jdub that can't shoot (probably none exist). I suppose an example would be replacing Chet with giannis, and what that would do to okc.

 

If Stone wants Brooks back and decides that Tari's heath/contract demands aren't worth it, it's doable....

DFS + Tari + Capela
for
Brooks + Dunn

Add in picks as needed.

 

You make a helluva argument, sir! Kudos to u for the optimistic light amid the storm!

 

I think you’re taking this too literally. My point was about the synergy of the team and the combinations that makes an offensive system work.

I disagree that Sengun and Amen are far worse or inferior than Williams and Wemby. But that’s not the point. The post was about having a successful offense with the pieces and combinations of players. And the question was would these teams have the same success or be as efficient if they have 2 non 3 pt shooters in the starting lineup together or would they have the same issues we are experiencing?

 

Both okc and the spurs have a worse offense this season though. Rockets are 4th, okc 5th, spurs 8th. I just think it depends on who the players are, more so than what style they have. Young players don't win titles, we're not winning with a bunch of 22 year olds, that's not how basketball works. I know people like to glaze the spurs for whatever reason, but in terms of being a contender the are COMPLETELY irrelevant.

 

Not talking about metrics man. Talking wins and losses. Their offense was good enough to win more than us. And OKC won a championship with several 2nd, 3rd, 4th year guys on their roster. I don’t think Spurs are a better team. Their offense runs better since they have a stretch 5.

 

Points is not really a metric. OKC had the 2nd best player in the league on their team, were EXTREMELY healthy, and got EXTREMELY favorable officiating. We have none of that. Despite that, the rockets have been the 2nd best team in the nba this season which isn't really all that bad all things considered.

 

I was talking about the totality of an offense not just points. And I was talking about success in terms of wins and losses.

 

Maybe crunch time was different, but Rockets had at least 2 threes blocked 4th Q last night -- one block an entire game is usually max. Portland was contesting well for whatever reason.. reason that seem fishy considering their suck OPP PPG.

 

Rockets have some advantages this point vs last year. I think no Fred neutralizes KD's prowess and the offense is mostly improved because Tari and Sengun improved from range.

But consider this.... How long can KD maintain the 2nd most minutes in the league??

 

Mat Ishbia already stated that he won't trade Dillon for Austin Reaves. How are these three bums able to get both Dillon and Dunn back

 

I hope we don't need KD to play more than 36 mpg.

Sengun hasn't really improved his long range shot. Not a lot anyway. He shoots too little to have made much difference. Tari's shooting has been boosting our offense. Adding Reed also helps. KD (even if he would play less) over Jalen is the most obvious improvement on offense.

Losing Brooks and FVV hurts the defense and DFS has not been a factor. Okogie helps the defense a bit. It has slipped no doubt, but not as much as some people here are crying.

My point is, we are a better team both because of the young guys' improvement and the replacement of Jalen with KD.

 

Ah, hadn't heard that. But i did say add picks as necessary. But it sounds like they would want more than we'd give up.