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Jabari Smith Jr. is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Houston77, Jul 7, 2023.

  1. CantStopJG24

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    Jabari has gotten better at dribbling? I can't think of a specific play(im sure it has happened) where Jabari has been able to dribble more than 5x without either passing the ball, picking up his dribble or stopping after 3 dribbles to do a fadeaway against a 6'3 defender.
     
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  2. Arnel

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    He's definitely gotten better at dribbling. That's not even a question. No one is saying he's great at it or even good, but he has gotten better from where he was before. Even most of the "haters" would admit that, but I guess not the blind haters lol
     
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    Sure, he went from terrible to now just being awful. It's not something I would use as a case of improvement.
     
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    Jabari was bad last game. Tari was worse. He was Advija and was abused all night. Fans on this site, excuse the guys they like and hammer guys they don’t. Very frustrating. Somebody will manage a way to say Reed had a great game. Ime, who I don’t care for, actually called a decent game, but is still getting the blame for bad offense when we had tons of open 3’s and bricked them. Defense was top notch except for Tari, which is unusual.
     
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    Deni played like a guard so he had the advantage, for some reason the zebras were in his pockets.....

     
  6. Joe Joe

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    1) Dribbling more than 5x is usually not smart basketball not counting playmakers. JSJ is not a playmaker; it doesn't take him 5 dribbles to get to the rim within the halfcourt.
    2) JSJ did bring the ball up the court to hit a jumper last night. I expect that was probably more than 5 dribbles to travel all the way to the elbow. Granted, traveling 75 feet with the ball is still not 100% sure of being over 5 dribbles.
     
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  7. Arnel

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    He improved the dribbling lol, as I said he's not great/good but if you've watched the team over the years, you can definitely see that he's better at it now, and doing things sometimes now that he couldn't/wouldn't do before. This has also probably been a growing pain as sometimes it results in turnovers, so it's up to the team to determine how much they want to invest in that. If they plan to trade him, then they may want to minimize that so that it doesn't cost us a game here or there. If they plan to keep him long term than its probably part of the growing pain/development and may shoot us in the foot here and there lol.

    Same is true for our other players weaknesses also. Jabari is not the only dude, literally all of them have flaws, every single one of them. It's just that Jabari is the "go to" hate player at the moment so his get overanalyzed to oblivion for now :D:D
     
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    Everyone has flaws, sure but their highs are a lot higher than Jabari which is why some of them get a longer leash. Ironically, it's the same reason why Jabari gets protected by a lot of people. I mean if you look at the narratives between Jalen and Jabari, you can see what I'm talking about. Jalen got hated on for being inconsistent, one game having 30 and another having 12. Meanwhile Jabari gets a free pass because he's incapable of having those games. It's like the child who consistently got C's so you can't be mad at him for having a C while you have that one child who shows potential and gets As and then has C's and then has A's, that becomes frustrating because you know the potential is there. No one is watching Jabari and thinking man if he puts it all together, that's an all NBA player right there. We've accepted that he's an acceptable 5th starter. That's sad for a 3rd pick.
     
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    Jabari's improvement.

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    It's like rewarding your kid for eating 1 glue stick instead of the usual 2 lmao.
     
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    Why wasn't JSJ on Advija? Tari is more likely to get lit up because he's always on the guy that can light people up when they are on the court together. Tari would look like a much better defender if he guarded weaker offensive players, which would allow him to use his chaos defense more.

    On Reed, if he makes shots, the Rockets win last night. He should take a good portion of the blame last night because shooting is important. He deserves the blame for losses when he shoots poorly, just like he deserves the credit for the wins when he shoots well.
     
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    I actually agree with everything you said there… which makes your blind hate even more puzzling. LOL. Jabari is the C student, the “acceptable 5th starter” so is all the outrage simply because he’s a number 3 pick? I mean that's long over now, no point of crying over spilt milk lol.

    You can’t be mad at the team as any one of the top 3 players remaining that year was getting picked there by any team (Jabari or Banchero or Chet).

    And can’t be overly mad at Bari either as he’s clearly got some pros and cons and some of those he can only improve so much (like speed and quickness and vertical leap is mainly genetic, he can try to get better but he’ll never be close to guys like Amen lol). He seems to be a hard worker and wants to improve so there is still expected potential/improvement there to an extent, as big guys typically take longer to develop. Jabari 25-30 years old will almost certainly be a better player than he is now.

    So if everyone has accepted that he’s not the “A student” potential, but simply a “C student” why the barrage of outrage over it whenever he even misses a shot LOL. It’s a little weird but I guess every fanbase has their favorite piñata for the year. Carry on lol
     
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    I think because Tari is typically better at guarding quicker wings/small forwards and after Amen most of the time he is our second best perimeter defender. I was a little surprised to see Avdija score on him so much. I think Tari will play better defense next game.
     
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    His contract, training time, and opportunity cost eliminates hope of winning rings.

    No one cares about the draft 4 years ago.
     
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    I was disappointed, but Avdija is a superstar on offense and was just too much for Tari. His first step is much quicker than I thought; same with his ability to change direction. I don't expect Tari to shut down "apex" offensive players like him, SGA and the like.

    Tari should be better tomorrow after getting his first look at the guy.
     
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    Tari is on the wings because he's the better option to defend them among the guys on the court, and not because he can't guard the PFs. I know Giannis has made him look bad in the past. I don't think Durant would be a good matchup for Tari. Other than that, I think he can handle most PFs.
     
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    It's entirely because he was the third pick. His limitations were evident which is why I never understood the hype or was he was even the favorite to be the first pick. Just because it happened, it doesn't mean we can't complain about it. He was the third pick, he has to live up to that. Just because he produces like a late first rounder, it makes it okay? I rather we took someone with a high ceiling than average Jabari. Also, forget the fact that he was the third pick, he got paid didn't he? Even if the contract kicks in next year, he has to live up to that. I don't know why we rushed to give him that contract like there was any chance of him EVER exceeding that.
     
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    Talent in the league has inflated at the same rate as the salary cap.

    Trevor Ariza was a 4th or 5th starter on a championship level team in 2019. In 2026, Trevor Ariza level talent is a 7th man on a championship level team. He’s a 15 million per season player today and in 2019.

    Robert Horrys player profile once a championship level starter in the 2000s is now a 10th man. He’s still a 5 million per season player.

    Starters on championship teams can do more now.
     
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    Avdija is the reigning Western conference player of the week. It would've been a tough assignment for anyone to guard him in single coverage. If anything, I think we should be taking advantage of our big quick wings more by sending quick doubles to disrupt the flow of big time offensive players like that. I think we could use more creativity on both sides of the ball. Sometimes when I'm watching, it feels like 60's fundamentals basketball but with 3 pointers.
     
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    You put Jabari in any eastern team and he'll be feasting.
     

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