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[2023 NFL Draft/1-2] C.J. Stroud, QB, Ohio State

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Apr 27, 2023.

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Do you like the selection of C.J. Stroud?

Poll closed Sep 11, 2023.

  1. YES

    195 vote(s)
    84.4%

  2. NO

    36 vote(s)
    15.6%
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  1. tehG l i d e

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    Didn't look ice cold in the Super Bowl. He looked absolutely defeated from the 1st quarter on.
     
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    #6963 Buck Turgidson, Nov 1, 2025
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    CJ looked nothing like Mahomes in anyway.
     
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    Let's suppose the Jets get the #1 pick and offer it to us for Stroud. Would you make that trade?
     
    #6966 K9Texan, Nov 3, 2025
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    This draft isn’t that great imo
     
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    Not at the glamour positions (QB/RB/WR) but someone in the ~top-10 picks will be a HOF.

    The question is who.
     
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    Yeah I could see that. But if we’re trading a QB in this scenario, I’d like to be in a draft with a top prospect.
     
    #6969 cmoak1982, Nov 3, 2025
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    Then, in my scenerio, we *don't* trade the starting QB
     
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    In a heartbeat.

    A QB on his rookie deal is worth his weight in gold.
     
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    As long as he's not a bust.
     
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    Only 4 teams since 2005 have won superbowls with a QB on a rookie deal: Steelers, Giants, Seahawks, and Chiefs. Only 1 in the last Decade. It is a myth that it is best for a team. Having an effective Veteran QB is more important.

    Starting over is a dumb idea.
     
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    4 teams in 20 years is actually a good ratio.
    How many have won with a max level contract at QB?
     
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    He still has concussion symptoms. Mills will start again.
     
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    Brady
    Roethlisberger
    Manning
    Other Manning
    Brees
    Rodgers
    Flacco
    Wilson
    Foles
    Mahomes
    Stafford
    Hurts

    Not sure which 4 were on rookie contracts (Wilson, Mahomes, Other Manning, Hurts?). Also don't know don't care what their contracts were, I'd be more interested in knowing what % of the cap they took up.
     
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    I forgot what the percentage is, but there’s a number that there’s only been 1 Super Bowl winner I believe that was over that percentage.
    And of that list, I believe Wilson, Manning, Roethlisberger and Mahomes won on rookie deals.
    Also wouldn’t count Foles as a top tier contract, relatively speaking.

    Didn’t Brady take less to stay under that percentage?
     
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    https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/1397/super-bowl-qb-cap-percentages

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    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...s-shows-there-are-two-ways-to-build-a-winner/

    Highest % of salary cap for Super Bowl-winning QBs
    Patrick Mahomes (2022) 17.2%
    Matthew Stafford (2021) 11.0%
    Tom Brady (2020) 12.6%
    Patrick Mahomes (2019) 2.4%
    Tom Brady (2018) 12.4%
    Nick Foles (2017) 1.0%
    Tom Brady (2016) 8.9%
    Peyton Manning (2015) 12.2%
    Tom Brady (2014) 11.1%
    Russell Wilson (2013) 0.6%
    Joe Flacco (2012) 6.6%
    Eli Manning (2011) 11.7%
    Aaron Rodgers (2010) 5.4%
    Drew Brees (2009) 8.7%
    Ben Roethlisberger (2008) 6.9%
    Eli Manning (2007) 9.2%
    Peyton Manning (2006) 10.4%
    Ben Roethlisberger (2005) 4.9%
    Tom Brady (2004) 6.3%
    Tom Brady (2003) 4.4%
    Brad Johnson (2002) 9.6%
    Tom Brady (2001) 0.5%
    Trent Dilfer (2000) 1.6%
    Kurt Warner (1999) 1.3%
    John Elway (1998) 5.0%
    John Elway (1997) 5.2%
    Brett Favre (1996) 10.2%
    Troy Aikman (1995) 6.7%
    Steve Young (1994) 13.1%
     
    #6980 J.R., Nov 12, 2025
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