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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 19, 2025.

  1. red5rocket

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    Got one look at Jalen Smith during rookie camp & OTAs and said... I'm out... lol

    That's my hope anyway.

    Darby would've made a great 3d CB

    Maybe he was mad I left him out of the Htown Hunters Squad (H2S): Sting; Lock; Hawk; CeeDee; & the Punisher. Need to come up with a nickname for Jalen Smith now... :rolleyes::cool:;)

    Edit: Jalen Smith already has nickname: J-Roc
     
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    Please not Desmond King again.
     
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    While it Could be, I'm not ready to go there yet.
     
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    does that mean we still got to pay him his 2M?
     
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    From CoPilot....

    If an NFL player retires before the season starts, the treatment of their signing bonus depends on how the contract was structured:

    Signing Bonus Basics
    • A signing bonus is typically paid upfront and is often fully guaranteed.
    • For salary cap purposes, the bonus is prorated over the length of the contract (e.g., a $10M bonus on a 5-year deal counts as $2M per year against the cap).
    If the Player Retires Early
    1. Bonus Already Paid: If the player has already received the signing bonus, they usually keep it, unless the team chooses to pursue repayment.

    2. Bonus Repayment (Forfeiture): Teams can attempt to recover a portion of the signing bonus corresponding to the unplayed years. This is allowed under the NFL's Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), but it's not automatic and often depends on:
      • The team’s decision to enforce repayment.
      • The specific language in the contract.
      • Whether the retirement is considered voluntary or due to injury.
    3. Cap Implications: The remaining prorated bonus accelerates and becomes a dead cap hit in the year the player retires

      Example:
    • A player signs a 4-year deal with a $12M signing bonus.
    • Retires after Year 1.
    • The team may try to recoup $9M (for the remaining 3 years).
    • The $9M also becomes a dead cap hit for the team.
    https://huffsports.com/football/what-happens-to-nfl-contract-when-player-retires/

    Edit: looks like SB was $350K with $850K gtd
     
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    looks like we get 1.9 M back and he only keeps 300k.
     
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    This is bizarre to me... so if a player wants to retire, their best move is to sign a 1 year deal with a signing bonus, and then retire after it's paid.
     
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    Seems like stealing to me
     
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    Favorite movie of all time
     
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    pretty much.... it's one of the reasons teams use / like performance incentives & agents hunt signing bonuses
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Personally, I think its BS to have to pay him a dam dime. Retire if you want but you did sign a contract to play so he shouldn't get anything...............to be honest I didn't even realize he was on the team :D
     
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    #2476 J.R., Jun 3, 2025
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    Nick seems to be pushing harder than Cap.
     
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    #2478 J.R., Jun 3, 2025
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    It appears that Mills is looking good.

    Fisher not so much.
     
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