So, where's everyone at with Jalen going into next year?

So how would Amen handle defensive that Green faces?

 

3 years is enough to make a decision, there are no JATERS, though that is a cute way for apologists with low standards to make themselves feel better.

Jalen is a decent player, if he signs for a Brooks level contract - sure - if he won't trade him this offseason.....

He is just not that guy, and those of us with higher standards who aim for the chip can see it. We aren't worried about what country he is related to, or what color his finger nails are, just his ability to be consistent, and he is at this point looking at BEST like a 6th man.

DD

 

Oh, I forgot, I'm talking to a simpleton so I need to spell things out for you.

Literally 0 players came straight from high school since 2005......When was Jalen drafted?

Jalen didn't come straight from high school.....that's just your excuse for why he sucks at basketball 3 years into his NBA career.

Was that simple enough for you to follow along?

 

Jalen isn't on that list.....so it's irrelevant.

 

I'm not totally following what the point is. Like any comparison with Whitmore isn't going to completely be apples to apples for many reasons, including Jalen being two and a half years older and going into his fourth year.

Also, so the point heading into the offseason is that Jalen is just a victim of defensive game planning? He was getting a bunch of open looks off of all the attention Sengun drew for most of the year and wasn't hitting them. Not sure if this was you or not but supposedly part of his explosion was argued that he finally was able to be the man again instead of taking a back seat in the offense behind Alpe and FVV. But then he starts getting more attention as the man and his numbers fall apart. So what's the path here? He needs to be the man but not have defenses treat him like he's the man? I don't think that's a feasible path.

 

Jalen Green and Whitmore have the same adjusted ts% as 19 year old rookies except on scores 50% of their fgs made unassisted and another 30% in their respective rookie campajgns
They had different roles as 19 year olds respectively.

A mere eye test also shows how limited Cam is against set half court defenses. He needs a defense already broken down to score most of his points. Green has never been that type of player. Jes always been a player who creates most of his offense on his own against set defenses in the half court.

You can't replace Green with Cam. They have simply different roles.

The solution is you wait til next season. That's all.

Another thing is Jalen Green just simply isn't deficient enough as a ball handler even at 19 to ever average more turnovers than assists like Cam. That isn't even about tunnel vision as Green had just as bad tunnel vision at 19 as Cam. There is a threshold of ball handling talent that exists where it's nearly impossible to average more turnovers than assists because better ball handlers can hold on to the ball with a live dribble longer and create more opportunities to manipulate defenses with a live dribble where it will naturally result in having more assists than turnovers.

 

Jalen career high TS% 54.7% (as a rookie, it's been downhill ever since)

Cam Whitmore rookie TS% 56.1

 

You are either literally trolling or you have never had a legit NBA historical convo a day in your life

I now understand why the Woodwose was in the dark ages for at least 25 centuries, let me make sure you get this 3rd grade (simpleton) breakdown

So Green is the first player to get drafted (since they banned it 06) by skipping college from his aau HS team to play in the aau g league pickup YMCA for 15 games that shut down for covid ..... Do you count his g league as a season? If so that's on you

then remixed it back with Silas for two years until the first real coach held him accountable and he improved in his weaker areas the most in 3rd season Complete with a personal best stretch after struggling early season as 3rd option

Which brings me to that list of HS players which starts from 1975 to 2006 to now the Green route(no college or overseas pre nba) as he was being touted for doing this which I thought was silly because 30-35 college games under power program with coach was way better move....but it is what it be

So you barking constantly for now three yrs of him sucking, I came at you with more proper way to evaluate

So take the players (mostly guards) from the 1975-2006 class of High School players who didn't attend no college and entered the NBA and compare their numbers (metrics) side by side year 1 - 2 - 3......and then you will get a better trajectory

You can't be serious and act like K Murray doesn't have serious development advantage playing 3/4 yrs in college in same draft class as a HS player who enters league with no college experience and 15 YMCA ... I mean g league games to brag about.......You could compare them on a basic level, but a serious bball convo you would get muted out

But you can compare Green to the HS list and see his more realistic progress compared to those of the same path taken

If Jalen didn't come straight out of HS, then where he he come from....the overseas league where LaMelo/Luka played at pre-nba stints?

Where you say he is sucking and posting metrics, I Am saying he is developing according to those who took that difficult route

Which is why you won't post the remix list

It won't be in your sucky favor......which is only months away (see you have in Oct)

Now if this simpleton can't reach the Woodwose with this rinse and repeat reply....nothing ever will and you should just talk football

Has any football player ever came straight out of HS to NFL?

Now that would be a good debate to have

 

Jalen took the exact same route, with the 15 game YMCA asterisk attached

 

A lot of hand waiving..... and despite all of your BS, Jalen Green still didn't go from high school to the NBA, he went from high school to a professional league to the NBA.

I get why you don't want the scrub compared to his actual peers.... because he sucks, but your dishonest spin can't change reality.

 

No, he literally didn't. Now you're just outright lying.

 

What university did Green attend?

Mobley went to USC for 1 yr and was offensively challenged coming in NBA and defense was his staple ....3 seasons in he is still offensively challenged(sucks) regardless what his spoon fed metrics say

Didn't C Cunningham attend a year in college? He was said to be gifted floor general who could score as well......3 seasons later how is he looking (when healthy)

Has any of those three players ever been talked about being best player in league at any time in their young career?

 

The same professional league that you said is horrible? For 15 games?


A lot of tap dancing with the metrics and status of the g league being this professional league (of pick up games)

Waving that white flag not posting those metrics

You can compare Green to both his draft class and the HS to NBA list (proper context)

Pretty sure all the HS to NBA list of players had a good 15 games of summer runs against NBA caliber players leading up to draft, unless they were being cautious of injury and waiting until being selected.........which is how they played in g league, and you and others reminded us about it plenty

Which is why it was so hard to evaluate him because they were half assing it, which is horrible for real development in a professional (or any) sport

You got your hand caught in the cookie jar

Take the L (esson) and run for the remix metrics list

Can't wait

 

Green played in a professional league out of HS for 15 games and that counts as a season according to his numero uno ''disliker''

 

It counts as a year of development.

DD

 

You just say **** to say ****

 

Typical scoring man on a below average team, scoring when the opponent let you roam free.

 

15 games count as a year of development.....
Meanwhile

Goes to shows when someone hates green they can literally spin it in anyways they want

 

You were literally clamoring to build around him and contemplating moving Sengun to do it like 3 weeks ago.

“Those of us with higher standards can see it.”

Lol.

 

You don't trade Jalen yet

Seems like he's figured out how to score consistently when being guarded 1 on 1

It's the double teams he has to work on now