The Nazis were indeed leftists. Just like modern leftists they opposed free market capitalism. And just like modern leftists the Nazis nationalized the nation's healthcare systems, controlled the press, nationalized education, etc. Fascism is a branch of the same, leftist, ideological, tree that includes communism and socialism.
Why were Nazis evil? Also you sound like an alt account of atw. Atw, do you need some bust work as a CEO? Should I assign you some spreadsheet assignments?
No. Leftists are totalitarian, liberals support freedom. Leftists like you are all for banning and censoring anyone who doesn't goose-step to your radical ideology. You're definitely NOT liberal, which first and foremost believes in and fights for actual free speech.
Nazis were evil because they were murderous, totalitarian, thugs, that violated God's commandments to be honest and to love one another.
Why would "Islamophobia" "disappoint" you? Why would you not be opposed to a harmful ideology? Note that only Islam invented a term to shield the ideology from criticism, instead of the followers. Nobody should have a phobia against Muslims, but being against the ideology is important, more people should be against it.
There will be plenty of leftists - of course - who will agree with you on this. The Nazis were evil racists. But they were also driven by envy, just like all the other leftists. They were staunchly "anti-capitalist". https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/...NS-End-crude-smear-against-conservatives.html PETER HITCHENS: End this crude smear against conservatives - Hitler’s Nazis were in fact left-wing racists... Gary Lineker knows as much about politics as I know about football The real problem with Gary Lineker is that he knows as much about politics as I know about football. But, while you will never catch me giving my opinions on soccer, Mr Lineker thinks his TV and advertising fame qualifies him to discuss politics and history. Actually, it is amazing how little so many people know about these things. Although modern school history seems to cover nothing apart from the wives of Henry VIII and Hitler, nobody seems to know one crucial fact. The Nazis were very Left-wing. They hated Christianity and deliberately set children against their parents. They imposed penal taxes on the middle class and attracted Communists to their ranks. They wrecked Germany’s schools, insisting (sound familiar?) that they taught mad dogmas instead of proper knowledge. Like all bad Left-wing causes, they were very popular with students. If you take the forest path up from the pretty university town of Heidelberg, you will find, half lost among the trees, a large, disused Nazi amphitheatre where the students used to hold torchlight rallies and sing their hateful songs. The Nazis even combined with the Communists to organise a joint tram strike in Berlin and they happily entered into an alliance with Stalin in 1939, holding a joint Nazi-Soviet victory parade in the conquered Polish city of Brest-Litovsk. About the same time the secret police forces of the Communist USSR and Nazi Germany engaged in an amicable prisoner swap. The Nazis hated German conservatives, and they hated democratic German socialists. An amazing fact emerges from Julia Boyd’s superb recent book Travellers In The Third Reich. She describes how a Swiss academic, Denis de Rougemont, lived for some time in Frankfurt in the Nazi era, with the advantage of speaking and understanding German perfectly. This allowed him to have the private conversations with ordinary Germans which most foreign visitors could not. He began by thinking that Hitler’s regime was Right-wing. But, as Julia Boyd writes: ‘What unsettled him was the fact that those who stood most naturally on the Right – lawyers, doctors, industrialists and so on – were the very ones who most bitterly denounced National Socialism. Far from being a bulwark against Communism, they complained, it was itself Communism in disguise. ‘They pointed out that only workers and peasants benefited from Nazi reforms, while their own values were being systematically destroyed by devious methods. ‘They were taxed disproportionately, their family life had been irreparably harmed, parental authority sapped, religion stripped and education eliminated. A lawyer’s wife complained to him, “Every evening my two children are taken over by the Party.”’ And those of you who have noticed the stripping of patriotism and Christianity from the Scouts and Guides, Cubs and Brownies over the past 20 years might note that this attack on old values through schools and children follows a carefully devised pattern in both the Third Reich and Stalin’s police state. As Hitler said, sneering gently: ‘When an opponent declares “I will not come over to your side”, I say calmly, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing but this new community.” ’ No doubt someone will point out that the Nazis were also appalling and murderous racial bigots. This is true. But so was Stalin, who was preparing an antisemitic purge just before his death in 1953. Several Communist countries did hold anti-Jewish purges in the early 1950s. Karl Marx, himself a Jew, was famously antisemitic. Much of the modern Left is suspiciously hostile to Israel, for sins which they overlook in other countries. I would say we should always be on the lookout for dangerous fanatics from all directions. But the assumption, common on the BBC and in schools and universities for 50 years now, that conservative politics is a form of Nazism, and that a desire to control immigration will lead directly to the death camps, should be rejected by any thinking, knowledgeable person. Relax, Gary. That doesn’t include you.
Immigrants to the U.S. should be in agreement with our way of life before being permitted to move here. Importing thousands of people who hate us and our beliefs while pledging allegiance to Sharia Law is stupid and a BETRAYAL to the good people that are already here.
More people should be against the belief that hating external groups of people solves the internal problems you have with your life. You need to fix them. Spending all day telling people you are a CEO and how Muslims are evil on a NBA team fan message board is a cry for help.
Agreed, and the same is true for immigrants to Europe, although it might already be too late for many countries in Europe, sadly.
Amen and great post. It must also be remembered that FDR and countless other western leftists of the 20's and 30's thought that Benito Mussolini and his fascist system of government and economics were amazing, at least until Mussolini cozied up to Hitler and invaded Ethiopia. The term "fascism" became radioactive after WW 2 as Hitler's death camps were disclosed to the world. Leftist academics and ideologues, who had previously praised fascism, sought to distance themselves from the ideology by claiming that it was "far-right".
Certainly, the people that say back the blue and then also criticize the prosecution of Trump for crimes he actually committed are hypocrites. In fact, that is basically what I said in my last sentence, that MAGA really only seems to hate law enforcement when they are going after Trump. You think the direction and policy of the right is against law enforcement? Which party controlled all of the cities that voted to defund police departments? Which party pushes civilian review boards? Which party's president said, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin." when the police initially refused to charge George Zimmerman? Which party's vice president donated to a fund to bail out criminals? No, it isn't just a few extremists on the progressive side that hate law enforcement. Which party passed bail reform laws and sentencing reforms that mandate dangerous criminals be released back into society far earlier than was previously accepted? It is baked into the ideology. Even Trump doesn't hate law enforcement generally, he hates that he is being prosecuted. He can't win support from his idiot followers by saying he did commit crimes and should be above the law because he is Trump, so he calls the prosecutions witch hunts or political attacks (it doesn't help when the prosecutors cooperate with him by doing things like charging him for dozens of counts for trying to pay a p*rn star not to disclose their relations).
Man is ATW now officially talking to himself? Does anyone know if they can do a mental health checkup on him if they know him irl? Might be the clam before the mass shooting.
A lot of bad faith analysis in that article. For example claiming that Nazis tried to take over schools to propagandize is equivalent of leftists teaching that lgbtq people exist or that America has a historical racial divide that created modern economy wealth disparities you see today. Today there is a very far right movement of busy body right wing individuals taking over school boards to teach "patriotic education". Nazis and fascism in general is about mythologizing history of national origins to make it seem grandiose. It's basic jingoism. For example the right in America will advocate for an education system that teaches that America has never had a racist past. Trump's patriotic education" curriculum is more akin to what Nazis were doing with education. For some reason atw wants to spread an article that suggests leftists teaching shout lgbtq rights is the equivalent of Nazis trying to create jingoistic propaganda which is kinda weird. Like it's so obvious it's bad faith.
