So, where's everyone at with Jalen going into next year?

Maybe it’s a speech impediment. Bet you feel mean now

 

Haha maybe but I have had the chance to observe kids that some do speak thru the nasal parts a lot, and practitioners always tell them or us to seek a speech therapist. If you have a chance with a young one, you might have experience with that.

His friend Jaygup said he wanted be an actor or musician so they have to train their voices....if that is a 2nd job he was going to pursue.

 

Imma keep mine simple.

Not a max player
Not a franchise player
Trade him

 

I was in the same place prior to his streak. The streak made me want to see how starts off next season and how he looks with a healthy Alpi. If he doesn't start next season playing well then trade his ass. If they trade him this offseason to capitalize on his value after his streak I would have zero issues with that.

 

Very clearly mentioned the shot selection issue and his percentages on jumpers. We're only talking about 3PT%, not his entire game.

Also, it's default. If I say X number of things are obstacles, it means the entire rest of the accountability is on Jalen. Everyone understands that. I don't know why in your mind you think this takes accountability away from Jalen. It's not my assumption.

 

My main argument was:

"You can't go from an unplayable player to franchise cornerstone in matter of weeks. No athlete in history took such leap in such a short time"

I was obviously right because humans are not built like that. Even Bolt gradually improved his record and then ran 9:58. He wasn't kind of an athlete who never ran under 10 seconds then suddenly ran under 9.60. This is Marvel logic. Some bug bites some kid and he becomes superhuman. It's idealistic approach to life which is how they want you to think. They want to cut your organic connection with reality to make you vulnerable for brainwashing. This was the direct outcome of not reading Marx and Engels.

He doesn't have a good shooting form. It's not terrible but his release point is still relatively low and when he jumps he doesn't jump straight up in the air rather goes slightly left, right or backwards. When you watch Desmond Bane shoot the ball you see how bad Jalen's form is. Also he can't just catch and shoot. He needs to touch it, play with it then maybe he will make that 3 pointer but we can't let him be so ball dominant like Harden. Harden is twice the player he is.

He only looks good against subpar teams because they don't know how to guard him and his confidence grows and grows so he continues balling out. Good teams know how to disrupt his game and generally speaking when he gets knocked down he can't get up. That's what seperates good players from great players. Great players can make adjustments. That's why Tyson Fury is better than Wilder because he can analyze the situation he's in and come up with a different gameplan while if you hurt Wilder it's over.

So what happened is that he learned that he was going to become a dad and it coincided with the easiest schedule ever and he looked like a superstar. 1 in a million chance. It obviously fooled enough people into believing that he was the guy to built around. These people can only live in the moment so can't really blame them for that.

 

Blast him into the sun.

 

I’d offer him Dillon Brooks type money. Good kid, conscientious, and when he’s ON he can move the scoreboard like nobody else on the roster.
$20mil p.a. may be an overpay, but is not outrageous, and there’s still a possibility for a pop…

Of course, I’d pay even less if I could, but I don’t think he’s taking less than that. he’s always had a bit inflated sense of himself, understandable given the athletic talent and the hype… Even $20M may take some serious convincing by agents and family, for him to get realistic…

 

Let's pray my brother in Christ.

 

I would be okay with that--a roughly $100M deal over four years would be my best offer if I'm Stone. Otherwise, you go to RFA and see what you can earn.

 

I think right now, no extension should be offered at all, he hasn't earned it. I'm not sure the team should want Jalen Green around for another 4 years at any price and certainly not 25 mil a year.

If he comes out next season and shows that he's finally become a completely different caliber of player than he's ever been before, that's when you offer him 4/100.

 

Beijing is no problem for me, should be within 30mins depending on traffic. If you are in the west side, then maybe a bit more time. See you in two years!

 

I’ve been to that city twice. I bet it’s nuts living there. Personally I’d rather live in Shanghai or Hong Kong.

 

March/April is irrelevant when projecting players. The shitty teams have started mailing it in and even the good teams are going through the motions. Take Jalen's best month out, take his worst month out....and that's who Jalen is.

Was reading a thread on Scoot Henderson and the conversation largely revolved around how players trick fanbases in the months of March/April. Right now the Jazz fans are fawning over Kenneth Lofton. Johnny Davis averaging 15 PPG. Mikal Bridges last year.

 

I agree with you. Personally, I prefer Shanghai than Beijing.

 

Uh oh…doesn’t look like I’ll be able to weasel my way out of this one

 

Haha it's ok. In the end, I do wish him to become an all-star.

 

He clearly showed some improvement this year in terms of advanced metrics WS, VORP and BPM. However, it definitely wasn't the leap a lot of us were hoping for. I'm not ready to dump him by any means because we all saw his potential as an elite level scorer for stretches and some games this season.

He needs to get serious about his 3pt shooting specifically, that would greatly improve his efficiency. As of now he's probably on track for a Devin Vassell type of extension, but I wouldn't offer it to him yet this offseason.

 

Big Jalen fan , buy they should definitely wait and see how he plays next year before offering a new contract. If I was him I'd want to. He knows he regressed this year until that great stretch. If he comes in and plays like that from the get next year he'll be in line for a huge payday. If he's inefficient for most of the season, he'll either be traded or offered probably something between Porter and Brooks contract.

 

If Jalen can have a Vassell type production going forward, less 3pt shooting, more at rim, I'll be satisfied. He'd be worth around 20-25M per.