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Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, eliminating constitutional right to abortion

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  1. ROCKSS

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    LOL............Commy gotta break out this BS from 2015. Typical maga, lie and then lie some more...................commie gonna commie.

    Planned Parenthood was awarded as much as $2.2 million in damages on Friday, after a federal jury in San Francisco ruled that an anti-abortion activist had broken federal and state laws when he secretly recorded workers for the organization.

    The activist, David R. Daleiden, recorded the videos in 2015 in an attempt to show that Planned Parenthood was illegally selling fetal tissue, a claim that created a political uproar and mobilized conservatives against the organization.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/15/us/planned-parenthood-lawsuit-secret-videos.html
     
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    A San Franciso jury ruled for Planned Parenthood? That settles it then!
     
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    Indiana Court Gives Win To Group Arguing Religious Freedom Grants Them Right To Abortion

    An Indiana appeals court Thursday upheld an injunction for plaintiffs arguing that their religious beliefs entitle them to an exemption from the state’s near-total abortion ban.

    A few individuals and Hoosier Jews for Choice said that they believe that life does not begin at conception and that the life of the pregnant woman outweighs the “potential for life embodied in a fetus.”

    The argument turns one of the anti-abortion movement’s most reliable talking points on its head and takes the mantle of “religious conviction” from conservative Christians, who have wielded it so successfully, both in courts of law and public opinion.

    If a corporation can engage in a religious exercise by refusing to provide abortifacients — contraceptives that essentially abort a pregnancy after fertilization — it stands to reason that a pregnant person can engage in a religious exercise by pursuing an abortion,” wrote Judge Leanna Weissmann for the Court of Appeals of Indiana. “In both situations, the claimant is required to take or abstain from action that the claimant’s sincere religious beliefs direct. And in both situations, the claimant’s objection to the challenged law or regulation is rooted in the claimant’s sincere religious beliefs.”

    Weissmann also pointed out that the exemption plaintiffs seek aligns with the (scant) exemptions included in the abortion ban.

    “The broader religious exemption that Plaintiffs effectively seek has the same foundation as the narrower exceptions already existing in the Abortion Law: all are based on the interests of the mother outweighing the interests of the zygote, embryo, or fetus,” she wrote. “The religious exemption that Plaintiffs seek, based on their sincere religious beliefs, merely expands the circumstances in which the pregnant woman’s health dictates an abortion.”

    The group also sought class action status for “all persons in Indiana whose religious beliefs direct them to obtain abortions.”

    The majority ultimately upheld an injunction blocking the abortion ban for the plaintiffs, but sent the case back down to the trial court to narrow it; the state complained that the injunction would allow plaintiffs to get abortions that aren’t dictated by their religious beliefs.

    In his concurrence, Judge Mark Bailey was even more explicit about how Indiana lawmakers have favored the conservative Christian viewpoint on abortion in their post-Dobbs legislation.

    “Yet in this post-Dobbs world, our Legislature has done just that – preferred one creed over another,” he wrote. “Based upon the premise that the State has a compelling interest in the outcome of a woman’s pregnancy arising at the very moment of conception, there is a codification of when life begins, something intensely debated among adherents to various religions.”

    He cracked that lawmakers are ill-equipped to decide a question still confounding theologians.

    “Legislators, an overwhelming majority of whom have not experienced childbirth, nevertheless dictate that virtually all pregnancies in this State must proceed to birth notwithstanding the onerous burden upon women and girls,” he wrote. “They have done so not based upon science or viability but upon a blanket assertion that they are the protectors of ‘life’ from the moment of conception.”

    “The least that can be expected is that the remaining Hoosiers of child bearing ability will be given the opportunity to act in accordance with their own consciences and religious creeds,” he concluded.


    Read the ruling here.
     
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    So trump, dropping in the polls, decides he needs to politicize abortion. And not surprisingly, its a confusing web of lies...

     
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    Reminder that trump has no core beliefs on anything other than himself. In his muddled effort to attract votes he simply exposed his lack of morals...

     
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    I honestly never thought it would be overturned.
    I am not unhappy about it.
    That said. . . . it will be interesting to see where we go from here.

    I now don't know if it can come back as the law of the land easily
    state by state thing I guess
    Could be a good 10~20 yrs before it gets there

    This has been a political football and still is
    Demos Fumbled it . . not the Repubs got it

    Rocket River
     
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    Democrats love killing babies. Hard to argue with that
     
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    Are people still buying the Trump bibles?!?!
     
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    Meanwhile Biden channeled the spirit of LBJ and dropped this ad today. It feels like that daisy ad against Goldwater.

     
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    What did goebbels say about telling a lie?

     
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    I hope these right wing courts push more people to the polls.

     
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    No exceptions...

     
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