He showed promise early.... he played a lot of hero ball with some success. Nobody knew about BumRub Tugger until deep into is caREAR... I'll see myself out
I was pretty blah on the Watson trade. I knew we were losing a good player, but didn't want that scumbag to represent the Texans. Glad we got a much better player and person leading the team. Weird how once CJ was drafted, that all the good fortune started happening for the franchise
He was an awesome young qb, saying he was overrated is just revisionist history. At the time of the trade he was easily the best asset ever traded in the nfl, a 26 year old superstar qb. Seattle got just as much for wilson, a much worse player who was almost a decade older. I’m glad it turned out well and i’m glad watson has sucked but at the time it was a complete fleecing.
Hero ball doesn't work on a consistent basis. See jch1911's post for my thoughts. I said at the time that trading Watson for draft picks was the way to go and this was before we knew he was a pervert. Luckily Watson being a sexual predator forced the McNair's to do what needed to be done to have a better chance at bringing a Lombardi to Kirby. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
You're vastly underrating where Russell Wilson was when he was dealt. Yes, older - but he was coming off three very good years: 95 TDs; 66.8% C%; 105 QB rating. And he had not sat out a year; he was not under criminal investigation; he was not staring down a significant suspension. And while Seattle got a huge haul - I'm not sure it was "just as much." This completely ignores both the circumstances surrounding Watson, as well the limitations his contract placed on the process. I don't think anyone viewed the trade as a fleecing. In fact, I would argue most saw it as maximizing a valuable - but complicated - asset. He wasn't going to play for the Texans; he had dozens of credible allegations hanging over him. He was almost certainly going to be suspended. So, yes - he was a 26-yo franchise QB. But he had *a lot* of baggage.
Seattle got 2 1sts and 2 2nds, we got 3 1sts, one of which was traded for 2 2nds. The 1sts they got were also better. The absolute best case scenario for wilson was what, 2 more good seasons? The best case scenario for watson was a decade where in his prime you would expect him to be a perennial MVP.
Yah...can't help it if the Browns defense was good enough to win games. Especially last season...if only they had sucked enough to get a top 12 pick again this draft; Odunze or Brock would've been a real.
So insane. And it’s funny when we were all ******** on the DHop trade (RIGHTFULLY SO) we were using the fact that Diggs got a 1st (and a 3rd and a 5th) everything comes full circle. We trade Watson for a haul and literally rebuild this entire franchise. Then we get Diggs for less than we got for Hopkins and this team looks INSANE. While Watson and DHop fizzle. we deserve this. It’s been years of torment. Even my closest friends (meaning we are all savages to each other) had been feeling bad for me and not making jokes anymore. Now they are all talking about how fun this team is gonna be to watch.
So glad to be rid of the Clemson, South Carolina guys Watson, Hopkins, Clowney,Swearinger, Bennett etc... nothing ever good comes from there.
Poppa (Bob) McNair was a SC grad. I swear its why we chose Clowney over Mack (IIRC Rick Smith wanted Mack) Looked at our current roster.... guess where most of our current players are from? Alabama.... then UTX (Cal's alma mater) & FL. It's true tho Nick seems to like players from P5 programs
I like what Caserio and Ryans are doing when it comes to choosing talent. Seems to be a SEC and Native Texans are priorities it two prospects are fairly equal.
Didn't effect his performance. Dude was a beast n we've traded him for peanuts (Bill's stupid a**). I'm still not over that trade
