Montero and a low level high upside prospect or two for roster space and salary relief would sound like a sweet deal to me.
I honestly don’t even know that Snell is all that good. He is inconsistent and he doesn’t pitch a lot of innings. Also - like I said before, these 1 year deals with option years 2-3 for players are not great for teams IMO. Yesterday or the day before Rosenthal reported the Astros were close on Snell. That isn’t what I heard and I said so. Talking? Yeah but close? Not what I heard. Now told Astros are seeing what the interest in Montero is around the league. Has to be connected to the tax although I wasn’t told that. I get the same line - “Crane and Brown both are obsessed with improving this team.” I’ll be mildly surprised if the Astros get Snell. There are teams out there with more money - but I also think this highlights that Snell isn’t as accomplished as he and Boras think. 2 great years and 4-5 years of “okay” doesn’t breed confidence.
2 years 66 million for Snell, I'm not even a big fan of his but that seems extremely fair, even with the second years being a PO. I get why we're balking at it, we are already red lining our spending,have a team that's good enough as is to win it all and he's been inconsistent. I don't understand why the Yankees or one of the other blue bloods aren't all over that. For a pitcher with CY young upside and no long term commitment it seems like a no brainer.
Remember when posters were gnashing their teeth over trading Bryan De La Cruz for Yimi Garcia? Fun times.
Agreed - and I personally wouldn’t trade the second best reliever in post season history if I want to win the WS this year or next. Late innings deep in the playoffs are extremely difficult to pitch well and succeed at.
Teoscar for Liriano was a bloodbath in here... probably moreso because they didn't make any other moves (but of course, 2 trade deadlines back then... and we all remember what happened with the second one).
I completely disagree about the 2nd year. The Astros ( and we) know what Snell and Boros' desires and plans are. Unless the Astros offer him 9 figures, the only way he does not opt out is if he is terrible or injured and neither one is good for the Astros. There is no way the Astros think it would be a good thing for him to not opt out and therefore need to structure the contract as such.
And the team will have an abundance of relief arms once some of the injured guys start to get back. Give me the quality starter and the prospects over the final year of our current 8th inning guy.
If we can sucker anyone into eating that contract, it'll be cause for celebration. Hell, just having Montero gone will be cause for celebration.
In exactly two years, Snell has been a quality starter. The four years between he's been mid. You want to give him $33m/year and also drop Pressly 's $14m to make salary room? You act like this is Verlander or Scherzer in his prime - he's far from it. I'm happy to add Snell in a vacuum, although he's a giant risk who led the league in walks (in a good year) and has pitched over 130 inning only 2x in his career. But not at the expense of an Astros legend. "Our current 8th inning guy" is really underselling the value of the best relief pitcher in Astros history, bar none. Put some respect on his name.
It's Pressly's final season here and honestly I see him as the worst of our current 7-8-9 and the team needs starting pitching. Suggesting Pressly is even close to the best relief pitcher in Astros history is either a statement about your youth, how much you over rate Pressly, or both. Would I expect Snell to come in and be our ace? No. Would it be drastically overpaying for Snell? Yes. That said, the Astros win a lot more games with Snell than without him.... and he's certainly a lot more valuable than the current version of Pressly
