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Would Jabari benefit from being put on the Giannis strength and conditioning program?

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  1. Haymitch

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    Yes, this is what I was going to say. Literally everyone in the world would benefit from having the conditioning and physical prowess of elite elite professional athletes.
     
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    His lower body strength was amazing from day 1 here. Dude had tree trunks for legs.
     
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    I think it should be tailor made for everyone.....not everyone can do the same work load or have the time.

     
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    I don’t think it’s much of a secret anymore that pro athletes are either on the bleeding edge of legal PEDs or very good at hiding illegal PEDs.

    With that in mind, I wonder if there’s a hidden from view type of benefit to star contracts? The NBA needs healthy heroes and paying someone 40 million to sit isn’t the goal. The recent pushback about playing 65 games for awards (and thus, contract multipliers) would seem to play along with this idea too. Probably just tinfoil hat territory, except that I 100% believe Lebron is the juice king. And somehow slender Steph Curry continues getting bigger and stronger but not really slower into his late 30s.

    I’m not even saying I really care if there were privileges that come with greatness. Just wish it was more straightforward.


    what in the actual hell are you on about?
     
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    Tilman could give him kids eat free coupons for all his restaurants.
     
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    Yannis' story is very unique and certainly would not be copied by Smith Jr.....merely bc you said he was not good when he was 20.....and he was a malnourished immigrant who did not choose his skinny frame.

    • Dude had other things on his mind than just playing basketball and started relatively late.
    • In fact there is not one lick of resemblance of Smith and Giannis, Giannis was a kid like Tony Parker who had a guy believe in him.
    • This body transformation is only a small step of him towards greatness
    • it is his inner drive and his story.........
    • One could even say he was a less skilled version of Hakeem and Shaq.
    • Hakeem's story as a soccer player has a little touch of Giannis in it.
     
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    By the Giannis program, you mean natural maturation process?

    He is 20 years old, it startles me how few people realize how much age impacts frame and almost everything else as well.
     
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    I didn’t say Giannis wasn’t good and literally no one but you is talking about his upbringing, for some reason.

    I’m discussing the topic, my take is that 20 year olds aren’t final form athletes. Honest to god enjoy left field out there bud, don’t eat too much grass.
     
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    Of course but you could just found another example that is not as farfetched as Giannis......

    Probably like Kevin Garnett or Kevin Durant or Kobe Bryant......American players that went thru the whole basketball youth system.

    Right now he looks like he would be on the trajectory of a Kobe Bryant or Kevon Looney type of body.

    • So yes, there are examples of bulking up to be successful and there are examples of Garnett or Reggie Miller not bulking up and be successful, which is it?
    • The Rockets just don't have the personnel to help Jabari with post Defense long term but there is no telling if he stays with the Rockets for his whole tenure either.

    • Kevin Garnett, Durant, Lamar Odom and Nowitzki never bulked up, Kobe Bryant bulked up enough to be banging with SGs and SFs.

     
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    All you have to do is look at pictures of them on draft night vs when they were ten year vets to see they all added significant muscle weight.

    You may go argue human biology with someone else.
     
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    Wasn’t nothin natural about Giannis build. Jason Kidd put him in a strict program and he adhered.

    Kenyon Martin talked about it because he was there in Milwaukee when it happened and he said that what the bucks staff was doin to Gianni’s was overkill. but I guess it was what he needed
     
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    Everyone adds 10 pounds at least but does it really matter to alter their playing styles....

    Not really every player goes thru that transformation.

    Also Bari is not nearly athletic enough or explosive enough to overwhelm people so he would always just be a shooter first and a low post banger second.

    You don't just change who you are, that is why Giannis the non shooter turning into a monster is not the example.

    Cam Whitmore went thru a body transformation in high school into a physical beast.


    If he can't be athletic as 20 year old do you think he would be athletic enough at 32?
    Nope.
     
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    They do or they don’t? This is an absurdly self-contradictory post and I still have no idea what point you’re making.
    Your position is that adding strength will not help Jabari? Certainly a bold take if true.

    You can’t change, unless you can? Guy wtf
    He can’t physically progress because he’s 20, even when he’s 32? What?!

    This is a hell of a self-contradicting post. I’m at a loss trying to determine what it is you’re saying and how that correlates to my post.
     
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    All in his butt and legs
     
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    Yeah…. he’s not the skinny stick he’s portrayed to be. HeDOES need 10-15 more lbs. of muscle.A lot of negatives are tossed his way on CF. It’s going to be really fun in a year or maybe two when people are eating HUGE bowls of crow on here because heis showing out as a Rocket or against us.
     
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    Exactly, and Giannis is deff. not doing it legally. It is almost imposible to fill out that big of a frame without taking PEDs.
     
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    Very good analysis IMO.PRETTY SPOT ON TOO! His physical progression since high school ( skinny kid, little muscle) over the last 21/2 years , including 1 yr. at Auburn is pretty striking.Average fan hasn’t followed that.

    He is judged with ridiculously weighted scales.People want 20 pts. a game when he is the 4th or 5th scoring option. Double digit rebounds not mentioned unless he doesn’t get them. Can’t defend…except Ime puts him on other teams best player night-in and night out.Can’t block shots but he got the only 2 blocks last game.I have asked the question what would you consider a successful night for him and have not received an answer. Want to know why.
    ? That would silence someone if he performed at their stated level.I, admittedly am very biased on his behalf… however there are just as many people on the other end of the spectrum who grossly undervalue him. I am excited about both the Rockets future and his…hope he stays a Rocket.
     
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    People just don’t getit…Lebron shot 29% from 3 in 79 games his fist year and 35% his second. His best year in his carrerwas 78% FT. He has NEVER had a 27/7/7 game. There are a myriad of other examples…19-21 yr. olds don’t play their best basketball…it’s rare,very rare.
     
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    victor conte still out Here traininG atHleTES and TechnlOgy executiveS in The bay. EveRyONE is training with him. ;)
     

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