STONE is still the HEDGE HONCHO. Why a FEW MAJOR HITS greatly TRUMPS MANY MISTAKES.

I do not have a problem per se with him but mediocrity is written all over his face......he had luck that Udoka was even available with his secks problem in Boston.

I am curious for a critical guy like you, that you would settle for someone like Stone.

This is like settling for some guy that his profession is not even a GM but a lawyer...... a guy that was forced to be the GM.

Just like Kevin McHale was not made to be a coach or GM......he might have won some games because Harden won him a few.

 

Stone has done an exemplary job as GM. Medicine already pointed out why. Not sure why there is all this hate about lawyers you understand BimaThug is a lawyer right? Literally one of the most knowledgeable posters in this forum. Salary cap and all the trade rules require understanding of the law and contracts.

You can already see a benefit of Stone being a lawyer a lot of our free agency signings are unguaranteed so Rox have flexibility to dump them and they don't become anchors around the Rockets neck. Remember Ryan Anderson and Cp3 under Morey era? Well guess what we don't have that problem with FVV and Jock Landale.

Getting all this done in just 3 yrs is anything but mediocre.

 

I love it lmao. Keep piling on many mistakes for 1 hit.....that is virtually Eli Witus' contribution.

And Stone was there to pull rank and make it look like he did it.....

Maybe he can pile on multiple mediocre seasons for 1 second round appearance......

Keep it coming.....

 

You could work for his PR team....lol I would hire you instantly.....

Dude is going to be 60 and when time flies by.......and still trying to find KPJs ..

He is easily like one of the most polarizing GMs to boot.

 

So anything good that happens Eli Wheatus did it but anything bad that happens that's on Stone?

Morey literally spent 9 seasons for 1 second round appearance. Irony is ridiculous.

 

Haven't seen one good argument from you other than personal attacks and ignorant remarks.

Any good argument is PR, but that's your style right? Anything good is due to Ime and Wheatus who none of us have even seen and anything bad or mediocre is all on Stone.

Thank God you ain't the owner.

 

Lol do you even need arguments in a Tilman regime and a Yes man in Stone?

All they need are gospel singers like yourself.

And Pray for Victor, are you praying for Flagg Cooper already?

Amen. Arguments are futile in a regime.

 

Tilman is here to stay so if you don't like him you can go follow another team. Nobody is stopping you. If you hate the GM and you hate the owner then don't hang around here and be toxic just leave and follow another team. Fertita is the 7th richest owner and his son Patrick Fertita is a bball junkie and being groomed to be the next GM. They will be the owners of the Rockets probably till you die. They aren't gonna sell this team for the next decade at least unless Landrys goes bankrupt so if you hate the direction so much just leave cuz the direction won't change. I don't understand why y'all keep complaining and complaining but still hang around Fertita and Stone won't change anything because of complaints on CF.

Medicine already pointed out the reasons why Stone did a good job the only thing you can say in return are personal attacks like lawyers shouldn't be GMs, Eli Wheatus did everything good and Stone did everything bad and everybody who thinks Stone has done a good job are PR people.

LOL wtf dude.

 

Also there is no argument for a city like Houston....and for a GM.

It is usually Championship or Bust, has always been that way, with Morey, with Dawson.....

At least make a Finals appearance once or twice.

The end result will shape the Tilman era, whether he likes it or not, his Landry's vouchers can go to the deepest hole in the ocean.

 

The way I see it Stone had these goals in mind:
-Dismantle the team, sell parts, and accumulate as many assets as possible
-Build from the ground up
-Take as many bites at the Apple as possible and hopefully find cornerstones
-Develop potential building blocks
-Acquire complementary veterans
-Hire a competent coach and change culture

The process was imperfect but he accomplished his agenda
But I believe if Tari would have been healthy, were in the middle of the playin if not in the playoffs
He’s that important and impactful

 

Morey got to the 2nd round once in the Yao Era and WCF a couple times in the Harden era. Stone has been in office for 4 yrs.

 

Western conference finals twice actually.

 

Yes sorry I meant in the Yao era. Corrected my post.

With Sengun, Jabari, Cam and Amen Rockets are a lock for a couple of WCF appearance in the next 10 yrs too.

 

If the only goal is just to get into the Playoffs, where 16 NBA teams are going (majority).......and probably make the next round or win 3 games or 4.....

That is probably doable for him.

 

The draft class and the ping pong balls didn't pan out from the painful record.

Sengun was a steal but the top 3 of that year would not have made us playoff ready now or this year.

People are coming to grips that this will go beyond a 5 year journey as someone like Wemby or Chet (or even Banchero) slipped through our fingers by fate.

That's not to say the young 6 are terrible, but anxiety and worry is growing and we know we have to make some moves that aren't bulletproof decisions because of how erratic they all are.

The player moves he has made that are less circumstantial....meh. Nice cap flexibility for scorching the earth like Maori but nothing that screams the need to stick with a rebuilding team and watch uncut gems shine over the years..

 

People forget that NBA careers are full of injuries and stagnations....

They think all developments are linear and they are not......you hope for exponential ones for 1 or 2 great players.

I agree it is full of growing pains.....abundantly obvious.

And fans are living for and in the moment of great performances like the 45 point explosion or the Triple doubles.....

 

Yawn. That’s a straw man if I ever saw one.

 

Stone has a slow trigger in trades and communication.

 

Some of Stone's "success" in the draft has just been to take the obvious pick (Jabari, Amen)- or more serendipity than acumen (Cam).

Josh Christopher, a swing over Grimes, was a bad call.

Garuba and Washington were busts. Spending assets to offload them was insult on top of injury.

He missed on his biggest swing with the #2 pick.

I don't think Ime was his idea.

That said, Sengun and Tari were excellent draft choices. If they were Stone's, kudos to him (or were these lower picks more Witus?).Kenyon Martin Jr. turning into 2 seconds was good.

If Stone had his way this team would be coached by Vogel and led by a core of Harden, Jalen Green and KPJ.

Time will tell if the bevy of seconds for a recovering Adams was a good move.

At least we have a coach and several young players to be excited about moving forward, but I am not sure we have Stone to thank for much of that compared to what the average GM would have done in his shoes.