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The Texans HAVE to draft Bryce Young

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. zeeshan2

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    Media will always find a way to **** Houston haha.. goodness, we would be glad we kept our 2024 first rounder!
     
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    Sam Laporta still isnt drafted until 18th. TE are like RB and are mostly ignored in the first round. Bowers i can see definitely dropping to our pick, though i dont really want him.
     
  4. Blatz

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    Wow that is harsh
     
  5. Sooty

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    Bowers will be very, very good. Burst, long speed, route running and hands. He will be very good in the league.

    That redraft is horrible - 3 defensive players ahead of the DROTY. No Bijan.
     
  6. TheRealist137

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    I'm outraged that CBS has us taking Levis in this re-draft, lmao
     
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    The Texans would, in a redraft, take Will Anderson 2nd. But, OK - let's say they don't. There is 0 chance the Cardinals take Puca over Anderson & I'm not sure Seattle takes Witherspoon over Anderson, either. And Anderson certainly doesn't fall behind Jalen Carter. And I say that even with hindsight. Teams are not going to pass up a backfield-wreaking edge rusher of Anderson's caliber for a WR. CB, maybe.
     
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    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ke-mistake-trading-take-bryce-young-cj-stroud

    MOST WHO WERE interviewed believe if Stroud had ended up in Carolina, he would have struggled, and if Young had gone to Houston, he would have succeeded because the Texans were set up better for success.

    "Houston had an absolutely phenomenal offense that would have fit Bryce perfectly,'' said one NFL executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "It fit CJ perfectly. There wasn't as much to manage at the line of scrimmage. There were a lot of guys running wide open, and not because they are great separators.

    "It's a lot of scheme.''

    Most agreed that Carolina's spread offense -- orchestrated by coach Frank Reich, who was fired after a 1-10 start -- lacked the personnel, from offensive line to tight end to wide receiver, to be successful.

    Multiple sources with direct knowledge of the situation also said there was dysfunction in Carolina because of a difference in philosophy between Reich, offensive coordinator Thomas Brown and offensive line coach James Campen. Several with knowledge of the situation noted the pistol formation used prominently in the season opener wasn't implemented until the week before, an example of not having Young properly prepared.

    "That's how little of a plan there was,'' said one source with knowledge of the situation.

    "Bryce really didn't stand a chance,'' said another source with direct knowledge of what was going on.

    "They put way too much on him,'' another source said.

    Those factors, combined with the history of No. 1 overall quarterbacks struggling as rookies because they often land on bad teams, are why those in Indianapolis weren't quick to rule Young a failure.
     
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    Not saying what the beginning of this article is true or not, we’ll never know….but Bryce still landed on a 7-10. CJ inherited a 3-13-1 team that has clearly been the worst run franchise in the past three years. Using No.1 overall QBs struggling as an excuse is a poor excuse when the team traded from 9(?) or whatever they traded from to get the top pick.

    I believe Bryce was put in a bad situation but we can’t for sure say CJ wouldn’t have succeeded or Bryce would have succeeded if their destinations were swapped.

    Before the season:

    Bryce (No.1 overall) > CJ (No.2 overall)
    Theilen 2022 > Nico 2022
    Chark 2022 = Woods 2022
    Mingo (2nd Round Pick) > Dell (3rd Round Pick)
     
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    lol a bunch of BS. Bryce doesn’t have the arm strength to do what CJ did.
     
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    This reminds me of the “Watson on the chiefs would have the same results and Mahomes on the Texans wouldn’t have changed anything” crowd. It’s all coaches and scheme and players.

    except this is BS because it was widely accepted that the Texans were the worst team in football. This revisionist bs is lame.
     
  13. Two Sandwiches

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    That's fair, and totally accurate, but I think the point of what you quoted is the difference a coaching staff and a front office being in alignment makes compared to one that's not.


    Or another way to think about it: Texans of most years vs Texans of last year.


    As a fan, that article is more a glowing endorsement of what we have in place, for me.
     
  14. Scarface281

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    Well this is true but mostly due to the owner. Frank Reich and his coaches did not want Bryce Young. They like bigger QBs and that was CJ. When Andy Dalton played in the same offense last year as Bryce Young, he thrived in that game. Tepper was fooled by the S2 test and a dinner with Young. There's video of Frank Reich watching CJ at the combine and he looked like he was falling in love. They really had to switch up their offense a lot because Bryce Young has below average arm strength and can't see over his line (on top of terrible mechanics).

    I dont like the revisionist history some NFL media is trying to play now.
     
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    I completely agree with you.
     
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    Rice at #6... #Nope.
     
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    Panthers are coping with the fact they very may well have drafted a bust. Not only that, they traded heaven and earth for said maybe-bust (giving up the #1 pick the next year).

    Gotta love that Stroud walked into the most-ready franchise, all the Texans were missing was a QB.

    By most ready, you mean, the most dysfunctional, worst team in the league, bereft of talent, “can’t win there”, racist owners, “Texans are poised to give the Cardinals a top 3 pick in the 2024 draft.”

    Why were the Texans ranked dead last in “supporting cast” or “offensive weapons”?

    ”Stroud would’ve sucked here too (Carolina). Bryce could’ve done what he did in Houston.”

    Whatever you tell yourself Jan!

    [​IMG]
     
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    The difference between one of the greatest rookie QB seasons in NFL history and whatever Young did was “the system”? What in the ****? No.
     
  19. zeeshan2

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    It’s all the panthers fault he was short and had limited arm strength! He only had 11 passing Tds and 10 Ints all because of those darn panthers!
     
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    Man Bama QBs deserve the same bs that Ohio St QBs got before CJ with regards to NFL success. They snuck under the radar bc they won Nattys and the SEC hype machine. But every QB during Sabans tenure was mid /sub par (NFL wise) and relied on its scheme and athletes at skill positions for success. Their offense was always timing based and game manage esque. Tua, the best of the bunch from the Saban era was a bust until Mike McD arrived and set up his offense which is, surprise, very timing based.
     

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