Do the rockets see Sengun as the franchise player?

Yep, and you will not stop crying unless otherwise, where our crying begins lol.

We can talk about what it is necessary IF Alperen is the first option vs 2nd or 3rd but I do not believe you are capable of it without trolling so there is that. I am not against Jalen being the first option should he continues to be this great for Rox, I am not sure about the ultimate fit. I would certainly not want Alperen as my 5 if we utilize run and gun with our core. Enter: Lob threat

 

I don't think we have a FRANCHISE PLAYER as of yet. Some people want it to be Sengun but Ive always said he is not.

His weaknesses are too profound to be considered a franchise player; short, poor rebounder, no defense and lack of stamina.

He looks really good when he is rolling offensively but when he is nit, we see what we saw last night. When his game is off, what does he do best?

For example, when Jalen's game was off, he was still rebounding and playing defense. Thats not Sengun. And thats why Ive always said, Sengun is only effective offensively

 

sengunians seem to take everything so personally . . .

 

Exactly why you are talking out of your own dear behind.......the Advanced Stats have Alperen way above Green this season more on Offense but also on Defense.

This Jalen playing Defense narrative is way overblown, he is playing better Defense than his first 2 seasons, but he is still below average.

Sengün's Defense is not elite but has upgraded to above average (good).

 

I think they are trying to figure out which direction to go, it looks like for Jalen to be successful Alpi has to take a back seat and vice versa - which one leads to wins, which to meaningless stats?

It may come down to the org having to choose between Alpi and Jalen.

DD

 

Ideally they might replace fvv with green and spam the green/Sengun game and replace green with cam.

 

Mirsad Turkcan only fan I knew it!

 

Why do you think they can't succeed together? How come they can't play like Jokic and Murray? I'm not saying they can or they can't, I don't know, I'm just curious why you think this. They did have the laker game where they both had 30/10, but on the other hand they've been playing together for years and that's the first time they've ever done it, so maybe that's evidence to support your point. Like I said I really have no idea, but it's an interesting thing to discuss.

 

No. But we still quite often jack up shots without any prior ball movement.

 

Glad you asked, in the playoffs the game slows down and you need structure - Jalen has proven that he excels without it, but struggles under structure - Alpi is more versatile and can play either way.

I am not sure if either are the ALPHA we are looking for, but the org has to make a decision soon on whom to pay the max too or maybe not to either.....and I am not sure they know.

Seems they are showcasing Jalen ATM - while he has improved the style they are playing of him with the ball in his hands more than FVV is different and it is helping him excel, but Alpi is on the downturn and conversely when Alpi is up, Jalen is down.....

Anyway, I don't believe we can keep all 6 developing players and the org is trying to decide whom to keep and whom to trade, and a lot of people will be upset in 3 years when only 3 or 4 of these guys AT MOST are still here.

DD

 

I don't think so. If Jalen is good, he's good. Same for Alpi.

Just the other night folks were celebrating both of them scoring 30+ in the same game.

Even over the past 5 game stretch where Jalen has looked better than he has all season, Alpi has mostly played well.

 

Horrible timing on this thread if you really wanted an accurate poll and not a bunch of knee-jerk reactions. Alpi just had his worst game of the season arguably and Jalen is amidst his best stretch of the season. If you had asked this when Jalen was in a prolonged slump and Alpi just won Western conference player of the week it would be a resounding "yes."

 

Ball bounces out - "Jalen is terrible, get him off the team and out of the league."

Ball bounces in - "Seems like the Rockets are showcasing him for a trade."

 

It is all about WINNING basketball - which style wins more often, a controlled low turnover game run through FVV and Sengun - which forces Green to struggle with the structure and slower pace.

Or

A more up tempo down hill attacking style of offense with a few more turnovers but much more pace, and more ISO....which Jalen excels at and Alpi can play a tertiary role but isn't the focal point.

That is what the Org is facing (I believe) trying to pick a style that they like or think is sustainable and works.

Or, the ORG knows which style they want and is SHOWCASING Jalen for a trade by playing a system for a couple of weeks which highlights his play style.....

DD

 

I had my doubts going into the season--I certainly saw him as one piece of the core, but I did not think we had enough data on any of the players to decide, "okay, this is the guy we build around". But he has proven it now. At least for the moment, he's The Guy, insomuch as we have one.

They would have to be to be incredibly foolish not to see that he's the player closest to being a guy you build around out of all our current young players. His production has been the best of any of the young core, and it isn't close--he leads by a large margin in nearly every statistical category.

Whether somebody else eventually could surpass him, I don't know, but you definitely prioritize your best young player in the meantime. You still give other guys a chance to succeed of course, and you certainly don't throw away other core young players for questionable returns, it just means when you make moves you make them with your best player in mind.

 

They should.

 

Not even talking about that, but it is a make or miss league.

Jalen is getting the ball a lot more often and initiating the offense where FVV was the primary and Sengun the secondary initiator before - and it helps Jalen's game he is a guy that seemingly needs the ball a lot to be effective.

Might be showcasing, might be simply saying, let's see if this works.....dunno.

DD