I care about context. Randle has never been a good playoff performer and RJ did better than him in the playoffs. The context tells me that they let go of one of the better playoff performers AND their very talented back up pg for Anunoby who has player option next year. So if he declines his option and they can't add Mitchell to this roster they are f.cked. They shipped their 2 assets for nothing. You can continue acting like RJ is the worst player in bb history but he was Knicks' Jalen Green and you wouldn't want to lose Jalen for nothing. It's easier to talk big when it's someone else's player not yours.
I like OG, but not sure this will do much for the Knicks given the price they'd need to pay to keep him. He rejected 30 million a year....
Doing better than Julius Randle in the playoffs isn’t some type of flex for RJ Barrett. Why are u acting like that’s something impressive or impactful? Julius Randle has been historically awful in the playoffs. Being the 2nd best singer in a group, but still sucking at singing, isn’t praiseworthy. RJ being one of their better playoff performers says far more about just how badly everyone else on the roster was playing, because RJ himself was not even good in the playoffs. I also don’t know why you’re acting like Donovan Mitchell is supposed to be their only option in the future as if no one else will ever be on the trade market…Knicks are Mitchell or bust for some reason now? u keep calling RJ Barrett an asset…3/80 remaining on a deal to put up an inefficient and mediocre 18, 4, and 2 is not an asset. In what world? They also have 8 1st round picks to trade and guys like Grimes and Robinson as salary filler. U keep acting like they just gave away all their value Man, if Jalen Green solidified himself as an RJ Barrett level player, that’s a major fail on his part as a #2 overall pick, and I’d gladly get rid of him, his mediocre play, and contract. If Jalen Green is our RJ Barrett in the future, then we took a massive L.
Now, if the Knicks could get out from under Julius Randle in some similar type of deal... maybe to the Jazz for Markkanen and Collins. EDIT: Brunson, Anouby, Markkanen, and Collins are 4 parts of a strong closing lineup.
The Raps had a mole inside the Knicks I guess, does not surprise me that they know the Knicks players so well.
The full trade is 'OG Anunoby, Precious Achiuwa and Malachi Flynn to the Knicks in exchange for RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley and a 2024 second-round draft pick to the Raptors'
Weren't the Raptors offered multiple firsts last year for OG? Like 3 from Memphis and 3 from Indiana (plus our 2nd rounder that Indiana owns). https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news...Memphis offered,gained much traction, per C.J. Now they end up taking a single 2nd rounder, a bad contract and an expiring? Ouch. Perhaps they like the idea of having a local on the team? Barrett is a volume chucker - who has always been below league average TS / eFG% (etc). OG is a much better shooter and finisher. Barrett is a good defender, but OG is better (and bigger!) The only thing RJ does better is that ability to create his own shot. But, looking at his returns, should he even be given that licence?? Raps got fleeced.
I think the Raptors won this trade ONLY because this doesn't change the fortune of any of these teams and RJ is 23 so maybe there is some slight chance a change of scenery helps him. Wouldn't be the first time a player broke out on his 2nd team. Otherwise I don't think this trade matters that much.
Maybe this trade includes a backdoor agreement for the knicks to drop their lawsuit against the raptors? https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...s-spices-unprecedented-knicks-raptors-lawsuit
To me the trade is less RJ for OG, but more Quickley for OG. Knicks is off of RJ's contract, but will have to sign OG. Think OG switched agent in the summer, stopped using Klutch sports, where in the past, Toronto and Klutch could never agree to a number. OG will likely see his usage go up on the Knicks. A bigger role, which was something he always wanted. Knicks spent very little draft capital, Det's 2nd. And Fournier will be off the books. So they can still swing for a Donovan or someone else. Flexibility still there. Quickley asked for more minutes and more money. Knicks thought about it and decided it was easier to trade. If Quickley was paid, he'd be a very expensive backup 1, or if you play him with Brunson, might closes the door on Donovan. Raptors only very recently stopped starting Dennis. Quickley on Barnes timeline and can fill that starting guard role. Instead of getting draft picks for OG, they get a promising guard whom they can skip a few years of development. On paper, a possible FVV replacement for long term. RJ goes back to Canada.
The Raptors were supposedly asking for 2 1sts for Anunoby - I don't see how this is not a good deal for nyk
The Knicks prioritized players over picks. In win now mode. If Knicks want to be a higher than the 5th or 6th seed, they still need to do something else.
They still have multiple firsts to trade so they probably will. Edit - they have 3 protected 1sts plus all of their own left.
Amazing trade for the Knicks, they bought low but I doubt 3 maxes of Brunson, Randle and OG can win it all. That doesn't really matter tho because Knicks fans just want a team that consistently makes the playoffs.
I'm curious what people think is the ceiling for Anunoby. He's 26 years old, in his 7th season averaging 15/4/2.6. The Raptors were asking for multiple 1st round picks and OG is apparently expecting near max money on his next contract. I personally don't think he's all that much better than Dillon Brooks or Jabari. Certainly not the missing piece of a Knicks championship contender.
