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[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 24, 2023.

  1. Screaming Fist

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    Old people say weird ****. You should hear some of the **** that comes out of my dad's mouth.
     
  2. Snake Diggit

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    Best argument for protection of each upper level eligible prospect:

    P Jimmy Endersby: era under 4 after July 1, 25:8 k:bb ratio after Aug 1.

    P Jairo Solis: 97+ mph fb

    P Misael Tamarez: Sept: 2.21 era, 24:9 kk:bb, 98+ mph fb

    C/1B Luke Berryhill: solid defensive C with power, .908 ops against AAA SP this season.

    SS/IF Shay Whitcomb: solid defensive infielder who led all of MiLB in HR in 2023. .960 ops against AAA righties.

    OF Justin Dirden: CF-capable defensive OF who hits lefty and posted 900+ ops in AAA May 1-Jun 30.

    P Valente Bellozo: 2.45 era in AA in Sep.

    P Brayan De Paula: LHP with good stuff, era <3, 17:5 k:bb since Aug 1.

    P Cole McDonald: 22:8 k:bb ratio, era of 1.00 since Aug 1 in AA.

    P Jaime Melendez: success as a 19-20 year old in AA in 2021-2022.

    P Julio Robaina: LHP with good stuff, 53:18 k:bb ratio, era <3.5 after Jul 1 in AA. 0.47 era, 25:5 k:bb ratio in Sep.

    C/IF JC Correa: versatile defensive player with extremely low swinging strike %. .825 ops against lefties in AA in 2023.

    C/1B CJ Stubbs: solid defensive C with power. .983 ops in Aug in AA.

    OF Colin Barber: org top 5 prospect; lefty hitting OF who can handle CF. 111 wRC+ in AA as a 22 year old.

    OF/1B Jordan Brewer: NFL WR athleticism, speed power arm combo. .888 ops in Sep, .895 ops against lefties in AA in 2023.

    OF Kenedy Corona: org top 10 prospect, elite speed, extremely high upside for CF defense. .902 ops against lefties in AA. Jun1-Jul30 hit 9hr and posted ops above 880.

    OF Zach Daniels: elite athleticism, elite raw power and exit velos. Capable of handling CF. 36 HR in last 179 games.

    After looking at all this I think Robaina will be protected along with the other 4 guys I mentioned (Tamarez, Barber, Corona, Whitcomb).
     
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    New pod up (breathing orange fire) where we talk astros new manager and put the final bow on 2023 for bight the Astros and league awards. give it a listen subscribe rate blah blah blah
     
  4. IdStrosfan

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    Less than 1 hr until deadline for rule 5 protection.
     
  5. Hemingway

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    F**k you. Old people rock! Our weird **** should be your bible.
     
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  7. Snake Diggit

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    That is extremely surprising to me if Corona is the only player they have added. Colin Barber should be an absolute lock to be taken by a rebuilding team. I think Whitcomb, Tamarez, and Robaina also will be under heavy consideration.
     
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  8. chievous minniefield

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    What are people on X alluding to with respect to Bregman?

    Saw something about “if the reports on Bregman are true”, then they might trade him.

    What reports?
     
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  9. IdStrosfan

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    Apparently Brown said, or insinuated in an interview that there probably is not money to extend both Altuve and Bregman and Altuve is the priority.
     
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  10. Screaming Fist

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    Doesn't make any sense to me either but Chandler had this to say:

     
  11. Screaming Fist

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    Trading him is asinine unless it's July 2024 and the Astros are clearly out of contention. Still, it seems likely he won't be extended given what he can likely fetch on the open market. Hopefully Dezenzo continues to develop and learns to play 3B at an adequate level.
     
  12. IdStrosfan

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    This is quite a gamble.

    I realize he will only be 23 with 1/2 of a season above A ball (79g/ 321 PA) but he has the kind of skill set that could keep him just above water and allow him to stay on the 26 man of a team not expecting to contend, like KC, Wash, or Col.

    Then of course could be an all star in 3 years.

    Very surprised with the lack of LH bats in the upper levels of the system, and Houston of course.

    I would kick Julks to the curb to ensure he doesn't get taken. I would bet money Barber outperforms him in 2023 if needed
     
  13. Snake Diggit

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    Totally agree. Houston’s farm is shallow enough that it makes absolutely zero sense to risk losing Barber (or Whitcomb, Robaina, Tamarez) to keep…Joel Kuhnel, Oliver Ortega, Bennet Sousa, and David Hensley???
     
  14. IdStrosfan

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    Potential Alex Bregman extension:

    He has averaged 4.7 bWAR and 4.9 fWAR the past 2 seasons. Let’s say 4.8 in 2024 at age 30.

    2025 (31): 4.3 WAR (-10%)
    2026 (32): 3.9 WAR (-10%)
    2027 (33): 3.5 WAR (-10%)
    2028 (34): 2.8 WAR (-20%)
    2029 (35): 2.2 WAR (-20%)
    2030 (36): 1.6 WAR (-25%)
    2031 (37): 1.2 WAR (-25%)
    2032 (38): 0.9 WAR (-25%)
    2033 (39): 0.6 WAR (-25%)
    2034 (40): 0.4 WAR (-33%)

    4 / $120m (14.5 WAR) = $8.3M per WAR
    5 / $125M (16.7 WAR) = $7.5M per WAR
    5 / $150M (16.7 WAR) = $9.0M per WAR
    6 / $150M (18.3 WAR) = $8.2M per WAR
    7 / $175M (19.5 WAR) = $9.0M per WAR (Semien)
    7 / $182M (19.5 WAR) = $9.3M per WAR (Bryant)
    8 / $184M (20.4 WAR) = $9.0M per WAR
    8 / $200M (20.4 WAR) = $9.8M per WAR
    9 / $200M (21.0 WAR) = $9.5M per WAR
    10/$200M (21.4 WAR) = $9.3M per WAR

    While all of the contracts are less than $10M per WAR and therefore not bad, based on this regression ( I think very steep but possible) he is probably not a viable starting player beyond 7 years.
     
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  15. raining threes

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    Not even close

    Joe Morgan/Jack Billingham/Denis Menke/Ceasar Geronimo

    For

    Lee May/Tommy Helms/Jimmy Stewart

    was the worst trade ever.
     
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    More like this really...

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  18. IdStrosfan

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    It's somewhat comforting knowing no matter what happens, the Astros have already made their worst trade and can never **** up that bad again.
     
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  19. IdStrosfan

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    Bottom 5 worst trades in Astros history

    1( you win)

    2) Kenny Lofton and Dave Rohde for Eddie Taubansee

    3) Curtis Schilling for Jason Grimsley

    4) Mike Cuellar, Enzo Hernandez, and Elijah Johnson for Curt Blefary and John Mason

    5) Jimmy Wynn for Claude Osteen and David Culpepper

    Just off the top of my head.
     
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