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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Jeremy Williams, Sep 12, 2020.

  1. Mr.Scarface

    Mr.Scarface Member

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    You are delusional to think that is enough for Soto. Whitley has no value at the moment. No one wants Jake Meyers.
     
  2. Hemingway

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    My main target would be Hader and move Javier to the bullpen. I think Brown is a future ace and it would be crazy to trade him. SP:
    Verlander, Framber, Brown, Garcia, McCullers until he gets hurt and then Urquidy or France. End of the bullpen: Graveman, Javier, Abreu, Hader, Pressley. Try to unload Montero and re-sign Muton. If they can somehow fix Pena we are 9 deep on offense. Altuve, Bregman, Alvarez, Abreu, Tucker, McCormick, Pena, Dubon. I still think Myers could be found gold with a new manager and then send Dubon to the bench as one of the best utility guys in MLB. We traded away our best OF prospects, but there is still Barber and Leon that could progress.
     
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    LoL what a thorough, detailed reply.

    Where in my analysis is the flaw? I broke it down for you. Show me where I’m wrong.

    For some additional context, Teoscar Hernandez was worth roughly the same value Jake Meyers put up this year. Hernandez is entering free agency at age 31, and will likely command a 4-5 year deal easily exceeding $50M. I’ve estimated Meyers’ value at a fraction of that despite the fact that he’s younger and his surplus value wouldn’t be guaranteed to him which limits the team’s downside.

    If you’re not gonna give an actual reply, you’re just being an ******* and making yourself look stupid.
     
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    I think San Diego not willing to move him for less than the sun and moon is more of a factor than your offer being unfair or unreasonable.
     
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  5. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Whitley is eating space on 40-man rosters... and may be available for free... so no one will be trading for him.
     
  6. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    San Diego plans to compete this coming year. Their underlying numbers gives them a reason to do so. They are looking for additional impact players in the short-term or moving a piece that may be a chemistry issue at best. The name of the game is not to collect assets or make profits but to win championships over there.
     
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  7. Stephen66

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    Is he really gone??? It's like early Christmas
     
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    marks0223 2017 and 2022 World Series Champions
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    Yup, as I had been assuming, he was already planning to be retired after this season regardless of the outcome of this season. No official announcement yet but appears to be a done deal.
     
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  9. Stephen66

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    Sure takes the sting out of the ALCS, for me, anyway
     
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  10. Elienator

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    Now that Dusty isn’t making any in game decisions and it looks like he’s retiring, good to see this thread moving on to the real topics like trading for Juan Soto!
     
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  11. Jake Tower

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    how old is he?????
     
  12. Elienator

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    He will forever have just turned 21 for me!
     
  13. AKdaDawg

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    “We’ll see” - Dusty Baker
     
  14. Stephen66

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    He said we'd thank him later.
     
  15. Jake Tower

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    YuleC
     
  16. ApacheWarrior

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    Oh yeah, what if I'm willing to give them 80 year old Verlander, 78 year old Jose Abreu and
    Ace Pitcher $11M Montero?

    That's $70M dollars worth of prime talent for Soto who goes into arbitration.

    You know what Ricky Bobby's friend once said. " Second place is just the last loser."
     
  17. ApacheWarrior

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    Not sure I agree.

    At least this guy sees it as I do.

    I would consider one of McCormick or Dubon or Kessinger or Hunter Brown

    But not Diaz

     
  18. verse

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    Whitley has more value to his home club than to anyone else in the league. He is an instate (Alamo Heights '09er) with a minor league track record of extreme talent and extreme pigheadedness. Noone knows this better than the Astros. For any other team, he's a talented, unproductive throwaway. ZERO value to them other than a scratch off ticket someone else bought for them.

    For the Astros? The talent is still there, they think. Better to get him with the "right" coaching and "right" environment and see if it cashes in. Even as a RP, a high leverage RP is worth the effort to keep him.

    Fwiw... I'd roll the dice next year, put him on the pen in the Montero role initially, and see if something sparks. Kid has talent.

    P.S. I know, and have known, a lot of '09ers. His behavior is not at all surprising. "Old money", silver spoon kid. Manziel type, though Johnny is a Kerrville kid, they are cut from similar cloth.
     
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  20. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Same age as Evan Carter apparently.
     

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