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Israel Goes To War with Hamas 2023

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by astros123, Oct 6, 2023.

  1. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

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    Because she is Palestinian?
     
  2. astros123

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    For spewing lies and disinformation in the middle of a war
     
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  3. astros123

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    So can you wait a little more until the "crater" is no longer prima facie :D
     
  5. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    There is no way to ensure Isreal doesn't kill innocents, unless you don't count the people serving as human shields for Hamas as innocent. If the enemies' military assets are embedded in the civilian population, then to attack those military assets means civilians will die. I think it would be great if Hamas operated out of a clearly designated military base like Fort Bragg. They do not. Their assets are in hospitals, churches, schools, and apartments.
    When the military targets are near civilians, civilians will die when the military targets are attacked. That is collateral damage. When the civilians themselves are the targets (like at a music festival, or a kibbutz, or a bus stop), that is not collateral damage. There is a clear moral distinction, but your communitst oppressor/oppressed ideology forces you to deny it.
     
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    Give me a break.
     
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    Way to justify genocide. Work harder, keep your nose clean and you have a great shot at being minister of propaganda of Netanyahu's government.
     
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    What is the reason?
     
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    agreed. @justtxyank , she is a democratically elected member of congress. Given what a lot of the MAGA crowd has said, what Cotton said recently...I'm surprised that's where you set the bar
     
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    There are many many many steps Israel could take to save Palestinian lives if it actually valued them more than cockroaches.
     
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    Of course terrorist supporter @maypk will continue to ignore facts and will still direct his hate towards Israel.
     
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    If u are gonna get triggered and bemoan about the loss of innocent lives from the hamas attack. And then attempt to downplay or gloss over the deathes innocent palestine lives via collateral damage, "war", or self defense. U been showing how big of a hypocrite u are.
     
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    Interesting, the Hamas militant thinks Joe Biden is acting and speaking out about the hospital blast based on no evidence. Umm. I don't think so, pal.
     
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    The issue is hamas does not want peace and never has wanted peace. Even during 1990s when Clinton was negotiating peace and got tangible concessions from Israel in terms of settlements hamss was still saying Arafat should've stopped and declare war on Israel. I don't think folks in America realize how awful hamas is. They will never agree to a 2 state solution. During the 90s when they were giving speeches at the mosques in Gaza they were advocating for a nuclear bomb to be dropped on Israel.

    Palestinians will never have peace as long as hamas is in power
     
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