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Solving Illegal Immigration

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    Can we all agree we need more migrants like this while we deport right wing scumbags like @AroundTheWorld who do nothing other than sew doubt in our democracy and spin braindead disinformation.

    Seriously give me 50x hardworking Mexicans over right wing Europeans who always end being scumbags
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/democr...cx_testId=3&cx_testVariant=cx_171&cx_artPos=6

    Democrats Form a Circular Firing Squad
    New York’s migrant crisis is proving that even in blue states, misgovernance has limits.
    By Daniel Henninger
    Sept. 6, 2023 at 4:57 pm ET

    The idea of circular firing squads in politics is usually associated with House Republicans. But we may never have seen anything like the circle of mutual Democratic destruction taking place in New York among Mayor Eric Adams, Gov. Kathy Hochul and the party’s nominal leader, President Joe Biden.

    The issue is illegal migrants and the so far unanswerable question is where to put the more than 107,000 who have poured into the city the past two years. With migrants, New York is no longer a sanctuary city. It’s a Democratic battleground.

    New York’s Democrats want the migrant problem fixed, because if it festers, disgusted state voters likely will elect more Republicans to the U.S. House next year, as they did in 2022 when the GOP won a net gain of three seats. An August Siena College Poll found 82% of New Yorkers consider the migrant influx a serious problem. The Biden White House, apparently, does not. It has stiffed every request for help from New York—as well as from Democratic governors in Illinois and Massachusetts.

    Even by the standards of thought-free progressive compulsion, Joe Biden’s southern-border policy never made sense. What other than a crisis did they expect as millions waded across the Rio Grande? But even after the crossings became a domestic-policy debacle, attacked by Arizona’s Democrats, Team Biden let it rip.

    For a time, Mayor Adams and Gov. Hochul blamed Texas Gov. Greg Abbott for rerouting to New York City’s Port Authority bus terminal thousands of the migrants who washed up in Texas. But the Abbott excuse has faded. The New York blame game has become an internal party feud.

    It’s common to say New York City is in trouble because it’s a “sanctuary city.” But the city is in a special ring of migrant hell because it is the only city in the U.S. that has a so-called right-to-shelter mandate, itself the result of another historic progressive fiasco.

    During the 1970s, New York was a leader in the movement to “deinstitutionalize” psychiatric hospitals and facilities for the mentally ill. The theory, for better or worse, was that the mentally ill should be cared for and medicated by community outpatient facilities.

    That promise of community care was empty. Almost immediately, the mentally ill homeless proliferated on the streets of New York in the early 1980s. Naturally a lawsuit followed and naturally a New York court ruled that under the state constitution, the city was obliged to provide temporary housing to any homeless person who asked for it. Across 40 years, the city has been unable to house the mentally ill. Now the migrants arriving in New York, supported by the city’s activist lawyers, have claimed this right to shelter and been granted temporary housing.

    An irony: The city is erecting migrant tent cities on the grounds of the long-abandoned Creedmoor Psychiatric Center in Queens. Policy failure begets policy failure.

    The Adams administration estimates that by 2025 it will spend a mind-boggling $12 billion on the migrants. But despite the migrants and the Covid economic downturn, the city has been signing new labor contracts with public unions that will contribute to a budget deficit of nearly $14 billion by 2027.

    A startling image from the crisis this summer was hundreds of migrantssleeping on the sidewalk in front of the historic Roosevelt Hotel, blocks from Grand Central Terminal. For weeks, residents of Staten Island have gathered almost nightly to protest the housing of migrants in a closed Catholic school. With no Republican available for even pro forma blame, New York’s Democrats have turned on each other, including the incumbent president.

    “This crisis originated with the federal government,” Gov. Hochul said two weeks ago. Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas returned fire with a letter accusing the state and city of a litany of “structural” migrant mistakes. He offered a list of federal migrant-housing sites, including one in Atlantic City, N.J. The GOP should have a 2024 political ad in the works with Mr. Mayorkas saying the border is closed, not open or secure.

    Mayor Adams, after criticizing the White House for months (“We need an emergency action down at the border”), attacked Gov. Hochul for not compelling upstate counties to house migrants. That would be the parts of New York that tend to vote for Republicans. The governor’s lawyers cracked back with a 12-page letter dumping on Mr. Adams’s migrant efforts but offering their own housing site list—all inside the city, such as Aqueduct Race Track.

    The chances are zero that the White House will acknowledge that its border policy, or nonpolicy, is responsible for an intraparty crisis. Gallup’s late-August poll put approval for Mr. Biden on migrant policy at 31%. New York’s Democrats are left with not much more than standard-brand buck passing. Republican House candidates watch and wait.

    We may live in an era of personality-driven politics, but New York is proving that even in a blue state, the tolerance for misgovernance has limits.

    Appeared in the September 7, 2023, print edition as 'Democrats’ Circular Firing Squad'.



     
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    Biden: No Immigrants In My Back Yard

     
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    “…the wave still continues. It’s not gonna stop nor should we want it to stop. Matter of fact, it’s one of the things we can be most proud of.”

    “…an unrelenting stream of immigration. Non-stop. Non-stop.”

    —VP LGB, 2015



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    Of course the wave hadn't continued and illegal crossings are at their lowest in years.
     
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    Crazy QAnon black replacement theory. :D

     
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    whoa

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    whats with all the gotcha posts....this country needs cheap labor, always has....it's a business, herp derp
     
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    When you live a comfortable life based on others labor such as being property owner or business owner, you feel empty inside in terms of sincere genuine accomplishment in mastery of some viable skill and this results in a need to create a class of humans that you perceived to be worthless and become addicted to content about people outside your tribe(white Christian American) and hence resort to be coming a police.blotter for minority crime and labeling migrants as "invaders".

    So it isn't a coincide that people here who claim to be nothing more than landlords, business owners etc are the ones who spam these type of posts and threads the most?

    They need an outlet to cover their insecurities of never having a creative outlet to pursue genuine talents through intellectual curiosity and feel inferior and thefore need this type of outlet.
     
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    NYT doing the NYT spin™

    G.O.P. Gets the Democratic Border Crisis It Wanted
    The strain of migrants in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and other cities has taxed resources, divided Democrats and put pressure on President Biden to act.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/08/us/politics/gop-migrants-blue-cities.html

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    When Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas began sending migrants and asylum seekers from the southwestern frontier to New York, Washington and Chicago, he vowed to bring the border to the Democratic cities he said were naïvely dismissing its costs.

    A year later, the migrant waves he helped set in motion have put northern “sanctuary” cities increasingly on edge, their budgets stretched, their communities strained. And a border crisis that has animated Republican politics for years is now dividing the Democratic Party. Humanitarian impulses are crashing into desperate resource constraints and once-loyal Democratic allies have reluctantly joined Republicans to train their fire on President Biden.

    Eric Adams, the mayor of the nation’s largest city, declared this week that without a federal bailout and clampdown at the border, swelling migration “will destroy New York City.” The nation’s second-largest city, Los Angeles, has promised to sue Mr. Abbott. And the liberal mayor of the third-largest city, Chicago, began pleading last month for the White House to step in.

    “Let me state this clearly: The city of Chicago cannot go on welcoming new arrivals safely and capably without significant support and immigration policy changes,” Mayor Brandon Johnson said.

    Gov. Maura Healey of Massachusetts, a liberal Democrat, has declared a state of emergency, activated the National Guard and started petitioning the White House for help.

    The migrants on state-funded buses from Texas are a fraction of the total number arriving in northern cities. Texas brags that its “Operation Lone Star” has sent more than 13,100 migrants to New York City since August 2022, but the overall strain there stems from the total, more than 110,000. Some of those migrants have family in New York, while others are attracted to the city’s history of welcoming immigrants.

    Still, the rising clamor is creating a rare convergence between the two parties, which for years have fought in seemingly parallel political universes. Democrats focused on issues like abortion, the preservation of democracy and expansion of health care, while Republicans warned of a migrant “invasion” and railed against “woke” liberal ideology, socialism and expanding L.G.B.T.Q. rights. Endless Republican news conferences at the border and threats to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas, the homeland security secretary, were dismissed as political bluster.

    Now, suddenly, some Democrats are sounding remarkably like Republicans.
    more at the link
     
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    The Stay in Texas plan can kick rocks.
     
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    Nothing wrong with saying Congress should do its job.
     

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