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2023 Trade Targets

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Joe Joe, May 8, 2023.

  1. prs325

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    Please hold on to Gilbert
     
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  2. CheezeyBoy22

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    Heyman could have saved time and just screenshotted that text from Steve Cohen.
     
  4. panamamyers

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    Not taking a shot at you for posting it here, but how does this stuff even pass as news on Twitter/X these days. Journalists just toss out vague generalities to try to keep the timeline full.
     
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  5. RKREBORN

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    Verlander is a playoff choker. He’s not worth mortgaging our future.
     
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  6. whiskeyred

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    Mets posturing, JV is not gonna go just anywhere
     
  7. Mr.Pringles

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    You don’t give up Hunter Brown for anything, that’s not how buying works
     
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  8. the shark

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    Last season
    ALCS vs NYY
    6 IP
    1 ER
    11 K

    WS vs PHI
    5 IP
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  9. Deuce Rings

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    Mets posturing for sure. But JV could most definitely be going somewhere….just at a higher price than teams may want to pay. It’s a game of chicken now
     
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  10. CheezeyBoy22

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    I only post him his crap because he has a relationship with Cohen but agreed.
     
  11. Fulgore

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    Wouldn’t mind one more bat
     
  12. ktex

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    We are good on bats. We need arms.
     
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    That means trading a Chas, Luis Garcia, Diaz, Peña type player
     
  14. Wulaw Horn

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    I was thinking about this and that’s my thoughts. Brown is just better than JV. Like, right now. Or, close enough that it doesn’t matter. And Brown will get better and JV worse. There’s almost no way JV is more valuable than Brown over the next 2.5 years, he will cost 110M less, and then Brown comes with 3 more years after that. If the Mets wanted Gilbert snd Brown my deal would be:
    Gilbert/Brown/Montero/Jose Abreu for
    JV/railey/Vogelfat/Alonzo.

    I think is so that deal. That basically makes JV the next thing next to free with Montero and Abreu being on the deal and solves all of the Astros problems. It gives the Mets two basically bust proof prospects with super high upside and a combined 12ish years of control. I’d do the deal if I was the Mets. Is probably do the deal if I’m the Astros. Probably. But maybe not.
     
  15. white lightning

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    Would not like to lose Chas. This could be a jd Martinez situation where he finally figures out his swing just as we let him go.
     
  16. CinematicFusion

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    Can’t give up Brown. Need him for next year. Garcia won’t be ready to start season next year, maybe after All Star break. McCullers?
     
  17. Wulaw Horn

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    The idea that Chas is worth 1 top 100 prospect is absurd. The idea that Diaz is worth 1 top 100 prospect is absurd. You are being silly.
     
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  18. IdStrosfan

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    It feels like Giants could be a match.

    Due to injuries they need OF help so bad they just traded for AJ Pollack and they have needed 2b/ss help all season.

    Pete Putila is the GM so he knows the Astros young players/prospects.

    Their #3 prospect is #90 LHP Carson Whisenhunt.

    Maybe Grae Kessinger or Jake Meyers could be the start of a deal in some combination.

    It's tough because they are pushing for the playoffs and injuries have taken away their ability to send a LH OF bat to the Astros.

    Then flip Whisenhunt to Mets in a deal for JV.
     
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    Call me crazy...

    To Cardinals
    Pete Alonso
    Luis Garcia
    Spencer Arrighetti

    To Mets
    Jordan Walker
    Drew Gilbert
    Shay Whitcomb
    JP France

    To Astros
    Justin Verlander (with cash)
    Paul Goldschmidt

    Cardinals give up Walker to swap 35 year old Goldschmidt for 28 year old Alonso. They also add a couple of arms.

    Mets get a lot of young and cheap talent.

    Astros get a Verlander but also another bat that draws walks and drives in runs.

    Cardinals have low enough payroll to make a competitive offer to extend Alonso.

    I think adding both does enough to ensure winning 2 more world series that the loss of Gilbert is acceptable... they would still retain Barber and Clifford....
     
  20. Hey Now!

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    Verlander was 2-0 with a .56 ERA in the '17 ALCS and was (rightly) named MVP. They literally don't win that series without him.

    Beyond that, postseason samples sizes are small and the results are often random and not indicative of anything substantive. And if, after decades and decades of evidence to support this, you, for some reason, don't accept this, then I would ask why Jeremy Pena doesn't have a 1.005 OPS in nearly two full regular seasons like he did in last year's postseason?
     

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