Keep in mind that players obviously will play multiple positions, so his depth chart doesn’t speak to that for instance, obviously Green and KPJ will be on the court together … they will get more than 48 minutes combined Iko’s Depth Chart PG — FVV, Amen SG — JG, KPJ SF — Brooks, Tari, Cam PF — Bari, Tate C — Sengun, Landale, Jeff Green
Oooooh. Incentives and bonuses and it's a decending deal. I would LOVE to see the structure of this deal. It could be a lot more favorable than we all realized. I'm in real estate, and sometimes it's funny what is required to get a deal done. "Oh, you want full list? That's really important to you? Okay. We'll give you full list but we want 25 thousand in seller's contribution and all $50,000 worth of your furnishings to be included." And they'll take it because what's actually most important to them is that they can brag to their friends that they got full list. I wonder if Dillon Brooks needed to show the world he's worth 20 million a year after that debacle but he's actually unlikely to receive anywhere near that.
According to the guy who does the salaries for Hoopshype, we should have like $12.4M ish, I think Bima also said that. But it needs to be used quickly due to the CBA or something. Below is the guy who works with Hoopshype.com and his website. https://www.capsheets.com/houston-rockets-cap-sheets/
So question, let's assume the Rockets were just over the 90% floor, how do those incentives get taken into account? What if it's one of those incentives that he isn't likely to meet this year (like become an all star)? Then because that incentive wasn't met at the end of year, it drops us below the 90% floor. Any thoughts? @BimaThug @aelliott I'm assuming one of the reasons we want to meet the floor is to make sure we get the non-tax paying team check at the end of year. I know it's a minor thing, but I'm curious.
A smaller guaranteed salary would be major news, with $80 million total only being reached through incentives and bonuses over the course of the contract, if it’s anything like that. I guess we’ll get the details eventually. At least there might be details left to get. A team option that’s yet to come out is likely far too much to hope for. There was some delay in Fred’s TO getting reported, which was quite a surprise. Anyway, thanks for the heads-up, heypartner.
Thanks for sharing. But Jesus, that is a weak ass front court for a team that is allegedly trying to win.
According to the guy who does the salaries for Hoopshype, we should have like $12.4M ish, I think Bima also said that. But it needs to be used quickly due to the CBA or something. Below is the guy who works with Hoopshype.com and his website. https://www.capsheets.com/houston-rockets-cap-sheets/
PG — FVV, Amen SG — JG, KPJ SF — Brooks, Tari, Cam PF — Bari, Tate C — Sengun, Landale, Jeff Green You cannot look at this roster and say we don't lack good rim protector. Actually only things that this team lacks. I can only imagine how mad Stone and Ime was on Lopez fiasco
At this point, I think we were offered something horrendous and we smartly passed it up. I still haven't seen a good trade value return in 3 years.
It's a lot more that goes in the thought process of teams than just who's has the higher ceiling. Tate is a team first guy and is older than KJM. Also I'm sure Udoka sees a lot of himself in Tate since both of their paths to the NBA were not traditional. Usually players like Tate/Udoka work their asses off for you. We just needed to break up a lot of the youth we had here. Plus Kenyon Martin Sr is well connected in the NBA circles, and sometimes that can be seen as a bad thing. Udoka seems like a guy that wants to run the team HIS way without any outside interference. I must say that I absolutely love his old school hard ass approach, but I do wonder how this new generation of players will receive it...
It depends on the perspective. If Sengun is our future C, he’s going to have to take a leap forward. Signing Lopez is just a stopgap measure. We now ride or die with Sengun.
That would make Brooks' deal much more palatable. Iko had previously reported that his contract was fully guaranteed which was a real bummer. The team option on FVV's third year was a nice surprise too.
Even if Sengun is the Center for the next several years (which I think he should be), we still need a rim protecting, pick & roll specialist to come off of the bench for 20 minutes a game. Ime likes his two big line ups and we are not running Sengun & Jock out there on the regular.
I cannot believe they actually plan to keep Tate and go into the season with this as the forward rotation. That’s a tanking group. I like Jabari and Tari as prospects, but they are both poor offensive NBA players right now. So are Brooks and Tate. There’s nobody in our forward line that’s a favorite to shoot >33% from three, and nobody who can dribble and make NBA-level decisions. If this isn’t negotiation via the media with Tate, and they don’t use the potential $22M in cap space at all and just let it disappear… that’s truly GM malpractice. Fireable, and I’ve never said that about Stone before. Hell, I think it’s be obviously better to just waive and stretch Tate and use our space to take a bad contract for literally any draft compensation. Tate is 28, brings nothing to this team we don’t have from multiple other guys, has a skillset that hurts our young core’s development, and is an actively bad NBA player.
Between FVV, Green, Sengun and KPJ, that's a lot of mouths to feed already. And that's before you factor in the rookies. I don't know that you necessarily want your forwards to demand a lot of possessions offensively. The shooting is a legitimate concern and one I can't say they've really addressed so far this offseason. It feels like they're really banking on guys like Green and Smith to improve in that area, but it's definitely a gamble. On the cap space, I think your number is assuming Tate is shipped out. As is, it sounds like their max cap space is more like $12M-$14M and that depends on which pool of money certain players come from. I'm going to take the opposite opinion, though. If it's possible for them to add an impact player at a key area of need, I'm all for it. Grant Williams comes to mind. But there are very few real impact free agents left and if they're just adding bodies to add bodies and eat the cap room, I'm opposed. Having the cap flexibility could come in handy mid season and moving forward, and the roster is pretty full as it is unless you're shipping more players out.
I'm lukewarm on Tate. I don't hate keeping him but I won't be sad to see him go. I just know that if I'm a fan of an opposing team, I'm happy to play the Rockets because I know it will be easy scoring in the paint. FVV and Brooks are good perimeter defenders. Great. But Green, KPJ are both bad. Amen is TBD. Cam is TBD but I'm expecting little from him this year. Tari is a help defender, not an on-ball defender. I'll just be really interested to see what defensive approach we take. What will our strategy be. It's possible we utilize the help defensive capabilities of Tari and Bari and that helps somewhat offset our defensive liabilities in the paint, but I don't think we'll have enough to be a top 15 defense.
Just based on the math of all this, I'm guessing the incentives in Brooks's contract are all currently deemed Likely. Doubt they're going to create any cap room this summer via Unlikely Brooks incentives.
