[Clutch] TyTy & Garuba were casualties 4 Lopez chase

Nah man, that wouldn't work for the Lakers or for us. I know that no one would **** with Pelinka though as compared to Stone because Pelinka will blacklist them among his tons of agent friends.

There's nothing illegal or against the rules in what Lopez did. It's literally just HONOR that upholds this most of the time and 99.9% of the time that's upheld. This is a particularly shitty thing for Lopez and his agency (Wasserman) to do. What we should do is leak around the league that this happened so that GM's understand that Wasserman is willing to do this to them.

However, there's no other recourse. He just screwed us over plain and simple and there's nothing we can do about it as far as I know. The league won't give a sh*t, no matter who the team.

 

I hear ya BUT I still think the league would intercede if some player tried to pull this stunt on the Lakers we just probably wouldn't hear about it.

 

Who was Bosh's agent when he backed out? Wasn't it Pelinka? Was DeAndre Jordans agent Jeff Schwartz? (Currently Jokic and others agent).

I just don't know if this makes me confident in Stone. The other side is even if the trade went through, 2 former frp + 3 srp to to pay Brook Lopez $20M+ isn't great in of it self.

 

Random conspiracy theory, but I think Donatas Motiejunas was Wasserman...so maybe this is payback for how Rockets handled that situation.

Kinda sucks how things happened (especially if it was bad as reported), but yeah Stone probably should have handled negotiations better and/or had better back-up plans.

 

Not sure who the agents were for those guys. Pelinka wasn't Wasserman though, I think he was CAA (could be wrong).

 

There's nothing the league could do, if they tried to reverse it Lopez would sue them and it would cost the league a lot.

 

I was talking about reversing the trade with Atlanta and other trades. Then again, I still blame Stone for not covering his ass in that deal before executing.

 

Yeah, who knows man. Like I said just a really sh*tty situation we can't do anything about but accept.

 

and i thought our gm is an attorney, can't believe this loophole happens to our team!

 

It's probably a bad look to agree to terms with other teams then back out, especially if that caused other teams to not agree to other deals. And there are a lot of deals (and potential deals) going around right now.

In this case, I'm not sure ATL really cares either way, but I'm guessing they're not going to be nice and let Stone back out. So yeah you just have to deal with it.

 

Ty Ty and Garuba are both mega scrubs and were deadweight on this roster so meh

 

Yeah, we talk about Honor and respecting other teams. Fleecing the Rockets of two young first round picks and two seconds plus cash is lowly knowing they just got F'd by a player and walked away with nothing is scuzzy and not honorable but hey, a deal is a deal.

 

I can't tell you how many years ago the D-Mo debacle even happened at this point, but what I can tell you is that it happened under a different coach, different GM, and different owner. Outside of the team name and the arena they play in, there isn't a single other connection tying this regime to that one.

 

It seems apparent most players know the rockets are a trashy desperate franchise that they can use as leverage for a payday

Nobody is afraid of burning bridges with poorman in doing so since they dont want to play here anyways

 

absolutely, they would be gone anyway to give us more ammo in trade or fa. Neither we’re going to see the court. We might not spend it right away. Somebody useful
Might come up at the deadline. Typical stupid fans pining for the back of bench players on a twenty win team. We got better this offseason and kept our flexibility for next and the year after when it counts

 

Oh it's full on a fun conspiracy theory. It 100 percent not a legit factor.

But let's say it was. Yeah all that stuff changed. But Stone was working contracts back then probably? And BJ Armstrong still works for Wasserman. Hmm.

(Again don't take this seriously)

 

Haha damn it, now you have me wondering.....I mean, if you were to believe the reports, we went as high as 2/54 with an understanding that we could even up that to 2/60. At his age, walking away from $12M is a tough ask. It does make you wonder if something else wasn't at play.

 

If Lopez agreed then backed out at the last second, there's not a ton Stone could have done and it's pretty f**ked up. The Rockets couldn't offer Lopez the money, at least officially, until they made the trade. There was always gonna have to be a verbal agreement first before it was official.

However, having said that, there's no way that there's not a similar "this is contingent upon that" verbal agreement when trading players to clear space. I get the feeling Stone still failed to cover bases and this is just PR.

Stone has done a pretty good job drafting, but his overall roster management has consistently left a lot to be desired....and that's being kind. He never seems to maximize value, or even come close.

 

Yeah, I'm guessing Brook really just wanted to go back to the Bucks. I wouldn't be surprised if Stone was desperate enough to do a 3 year deal even (at 80-90m).

If you want to go along with the conspiracy theory, Brook and the Wasserman team were just playing with the Rockets.

And when Stone made those deals, found out he wasn't getting a deal with Lopez, and said "You can't do this!"

Wasserman team responded with : "Yes we can. As the Wasserman motto goes...we know our rights!"

Alright that's enough conspiracy theory thinking from me.