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Amen Thompson tank thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OremLK, Apr 19, 2023.

  1. bmelo

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    he fits udoka style play 100%
     
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    If Ime agrees with you, our chances of drafting him just went up considerably.
     
  3. bmelo

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    if you think about it if that guy ever develops a shot he is 100% prototype of Udoka player. Disruptive switchable and long defensive player, excellent in transition, can init offense, great passing and team player.... this guy is slept on. I read about Scoot and his athletic ability but this guy is way bigger and as much athletic
     
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    If Amen can develop a shot he'd be no 2 after Wemby. There's a risk he won't though that's why we're having this conversation. The stuff about being a great defender that Ausar not Amen.

    Being his twin Amen obviously can be a great defender like Ausar, but right now he isn't. Got caught ball watching and on biting on fakes vs teenagers in OTE.
     
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    Amen is going to the Blazers. Really hoping Dame pushes for Miller.
     
  7. roslolian

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    Lol take any of these guys over Paolo Banchero? Dude only averaged 20 6 3 in the NBA as a 20 yr old on a crappy Magic team.
     
  8. OremLK

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    Imagine if Charlotte takes Miller as rumored and Portland takes Amen. Thinks worked out just about perfectly for us to at least have a chance at Scoot I guess. Honestly kinda okay with any of those three guys though (Miller is definitely my least favorite but still a good prospect).
     
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  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    The Rockets don't want Scoot Shorterson.....as soon as the fanbase figures that out, posting will be better here.

    DD
     
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  10. OremLK

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    Keep on spamming it DD. They may not be willing to pay the asking price to trade up for him, but I'll bet you if he's available at #4 they'd take him in a heartbeat.
     
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    They said his coach in OTE told him to be a free roamer and not guard anybody which is why he got a lot of steals and leak outs. He just played the lanes essentially I’m confident in Udoka coaching abilit to akenhom a solid defender.
     
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    Damn haven't heard of him in a while. What a fantastic CBB player. Really thought he'd carve out a role in the league.
     
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    You know nothing, Jon Snow.
     
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  14. Pistol Pete

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    That's an understatement......
     
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  15. peleincubus

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    Are you saying that for example last year every single mock draft had Jabari 1st. All the betting markets until 24 hours before had Jabari going to the Magic. That perhaps DD does not know definitively what the Rocket's real opinion on Scoot or any of the prospects in the draft truly is?

    I mean cmon we both need to be logical here and accept what truly makes sense.
     
  16. Tuckmose

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    I've been thinking of Amen and how his archetype fares in the NBA, the point forward with questionable/bad shooting skills.
    These guys all come to mind (since 2000):

    Ben Simmons
    Draymond Green
    Evan Turner
    Lamar Odom

    If you want to include big (6'5"+) guards in the list:
    Lonzo Ball
    MCW
    Josh Giddey
    Markelle Fultz (look at his FT% in college if you don't believe me)
    Lance Stephenson
    Shaun Livingston

    From that list, I count three all stars, a likely future all star in Giddey, and five total busts (Simmons might branch both caragories depending on who you ask).
    The best single season in that mix probably being the season where Draymond Green shot 37% from three somehow.
    What's really going against Amen is that aside from Ben Simmons, he may be the single worst shooter of the bunch, and despite Ben's productivity, he's been an utter liability in the postseason.

    I would include Giannis in the list, but if teams knew he would grow to 6'11" from 6'9" he'd likely go top 3 in that draft at worst, and at that point I consider him more of a big than a wing, and not applicable to Thompson.

    This has to be one of the most volatile draft archetypes I've seen.
     
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    Every thread I read has barely anything about the title in said feed. WHATS THE POINT OF ALL THIS ANYWAY?!
     
  19. Francis3422

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    Im wondering if the Blazers could actually fall in Love with Ausar? Maybe down the line he plays more PF for them?

    The more and more I think about it I think the narrative around Houston wanting a top three tech revolves around the concept of them liking Victor, Scoot or Amen. We really just need to hope that Miller goes in the top three.

    I like Miller fine but want him least. I actually probably have him 6th now behind Victor, Scoot, Twins and Cam Whitmore.
     
  20. Nook

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    Huh? Deáaron Fox?

    He shot barely above 20% from 3 in college and still only shoots about 30% from 3 for his career in the NBA....... and Fox is a little shorter, with a smaller wingspan and not as good a shooter. That is a closer comparison than anyone on your list.

    Jalen Brown shoot sub 30% from 3 while at Cal........ DeJonte Murray was also below 30% from 3 in college....... RJ Barrett was similarly as bad .... Anthony Edwards was a poor shooter as well....Tyrese Maxey? .....Scottie Barnes? Jeremy Sochan? Jimmy Butler was a horrific three point shooter early in his college career...

    There are many, many others....... truth be told a lot of players coming into the NBA are poor outside shooters. Some of them don't improve, but the overwhelming majority of them do improve, but it is a question of how much...... most of those in the high lottery improved enough to still be a strong asset, and some never become passable but are still valuable players (Fox).

    I cannot promise that Amen Thompson will ever become a strong 3 point shooter - in fact if i had to guess, he will likely be in the 32-25% range in a few years. That is the range that players like Luka, Harden and others land. It isn't good but it is good enough.

    Also, Amen Thompson isn't really a forward - he is a natural point guard with excellent size and a 7'0" wingspan.
     

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