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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Jan 31, 2023.

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  1. JW86

    JW86 Member

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    Whoever we trade for, better be a good 3pt shooter and floor spacer.
     
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    Young players are no good at it, that’s why there are no young teams in the top 5 (in fact they're extremely old teams). Just takes time.

    Not worried about it. The two marks of a winning culture are team defense and high assist rate. Those two are bigger priorities and I bet if we were moving the ball better we’d be shooting a lot better too.

    Drafting 7 players in two summers brings temporary compounding problems. They can learn to shoot with some practice, but defense and sharing are things you need vets (and coaching!) to achieve.
     
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    We're actually likely to get a little worse when we dump Gordon...
     
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    I hope Jabari and Green can live up to the expectations there eventually.

    If they could shoot >42% on threes, with Alpi getting them open looks constantly...look out.
     
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    Garuba helps here, too.
     
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    We're worst

    Period
     
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    tell me one thing we are good at? we are young team that doesn't run filled with scorers who are **** at shooting.
     
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    Rebounding
    When the right mix is on the court together our rebounding is truly amazing.
     
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    We need to clean up our fundamentals and good things would start happening.


    I am having a rough morning with my phone.
     
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    Name 2 specific things you would focus on.
    Mine would be defensive rotations and using picks and screens properly.
     
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    we crash the boards for offensive rebounds, but what comes with it is most points allowed off the fastbreak (2 points more than second-worst and 7 more than best). And getting killed of fastbreaks are basketballs 101 to losing.

    also, we are bottom in scoring off the turnovers ourselves - so we are the youngest team that gets outrun the most... this is really pathetic coaching
     
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    If ifs and buts were candy and nuts something something Alpi is a 30/10 player.
     
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    Ariza is saying hi!
     
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    take your meds bro
     
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    Surprisingly we’re not in bottom 5 defensively last 10 games, but we are 2nd worst offensively.
     
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    Stop creating them for guys like Jalen and Jabari and that number will drastically improve.
     
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    I recognized something a few weeks ago.....sure to get furious push back
    by SOF'ers ( I have most on ignore); but I believe there is some politics and strife
    going on between some.

    Sengun may have learned something from Christian Wood.

    Wood shot from 3 in 21/22:
    First 8 games: 38% (3P%).......5.9 (3PA)
    Next 9 games: 20.6% (3P%)....3.8 (3PA) [ got Theis removed as starter ]
    Last 51 games: 41.6% (3P%)...5.0 (3PA)
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/woodch01/gamelog/2022/

    Sengun shot from 3 in 22/23:
    Last 8 games w/o KPj: 71.4% (3P%).....0.9 (3PA)
    Before...........................20.0% (3P%).....0.7 (3PA)
    [ is someone intending to allow the paint to be packed for Green/KPj/EG/JC
    most of the season and now trying to bring himself to the top of the totem
    pole while KPj is out? Force himself as the hub of the offense? ]

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    5-man Lineups

    Jabari: 4 lineups that shoots a plus 3P%.......only one is with Sengun
    1) Bruno / EG / Green / KPj / Jabari.............51 mins.....+ .149
    2) Bruno / Green / Kenyon / KPj / Jabari......36 mins.....+ .040
    3) Green / Mathews / KPj / Sengun / Jabari..42 mins...+ .040
    4) Garuba / Green / Kenyon / KPj / Jabari......42 mins...+ .036

    6) EG/Green/KPj/    Sengun/Jabari........426 mins.....-- .027 (most minutes)
    10) Green/Kenyon/KPj/    Sengun/Jabari...123 mins...-- .114 (2nd most minutes)
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    KPj    : 6 lineups that shot a plus 3P%......two with Sengun
    1) 51 mins....+ .149
    2) 45 mins...+ .106 [ with     Sengun ]
    3) 88 mins...+ .049
    4) 42 mins...+ .040     [ with Sengun ]
    5) 36 mins...+ .040
    6) 42 mins...+ .036

    8) 426 mins...-- .027 (most minutes.....of course with Sengun as he starts)
    10) 123 mins..-- .114 (with Sengun)
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    Green: 5 lineups that shot a + 3P%....one with Sengun
    1) 51 mins......+ .149
    2) 45 mins......+ .106 [ with     Sengun ]
    3) 88 mins......+ .049
    4) 62 mins......+ .049
    5) 42 mins......+ .036

    7) 426 mins.....-- .027 (most minutes....with Sengun)
    10) 123 mins...-- .114 (with Sengun)
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    Sengun: 4 lineups that shot a plus 3P% [ Notice the top two (minutes) ]
    1) Eason / EG / Kenyon / Nix / Sengun............23 mins......+ .196
    2) Eason / EG / Kenyon / Mathews / Sengun...21 mins.....+ .149
    3) Eason / Green / Kenyon / KPj / Sengun........45 mins.....+ .106
    4) Jabari / Green / Mathews / KPj / Sengun.....42 mins.....+ .040
    5) 426 mins.........-- .027

    10) 123 mins.......-- .114

    I wouldn't be surprised if Green/KPj noticed how Sengun lack of 3-pt shooting has hurt
    their ability to drive vs a packed paint......thus stopped hitting 3's to give Sengun a packed
    paint as well. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I would have done the
    same.

    I knew Sengun could do better from 3.......could easily perform the same way recently
    when KPj comes back. But is that in Sengun's best interest?
     
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    This is the reason KPJ doesn’t lead the league in assists.

    DD
     
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