So me pointing out where our main 4 players excel but don’t get to in Silas’ offense is about Sengun? I think we should play through him more, but that’s not what my statement about the system is. It’s an ugly offense that doesn’t seem to take advantage of the individual player strengths.
Our Offense doesn't make it hard for the other team. We should hit Sengun with quick fast post ups where he flashes in the lane or let him initiate the offense. When he subs out we play pick n roll basketball ball and iso as a secondary offense when the play breaks down. This will keep the ball moving. Our defense is getting better which will enable us to turn defense into offense. I agree with you our offense still needs a bit more body movement and ball movement
It’s a guard centric offense - just like it was when he was in Dallas with Luka .. JG is improvement is obvious in this offense (he’s having a rough stretch with 3pt shooting currently) but he’s improved greatly in the creation / assist / getting to foul line Baseline cuts have increased and will go up even more the more TyTy plays or KPJ realizes that Tari and KMJ are great cutters also - not even mentioning Tate. The foundation for how the offense will truly look is there, the main point of stagnation is KPJ (which is why he’s always in hot seat with fans) Amazing all these reports of Rocket (1st or 2nd) year players setting records or being youngest to do etc etc and you would think we were getting blowed out by 20 every game. Rockets started 10 out of 13 games on the road and since they came home and been able to practice have been 6-5 .. imagine that
I think we need to remember that to this point, collecting the best assets has been the priority. So we want to blame someone for an unbalanced roster? Sure, we got guys who don't fit so well, and some that just are not that good. The time for making consolidation type trades to find guys who fit better via trade is already in progress. I seriously don't find a lot of room to complain at this point for winning right now hasn't been a priority to this point either. But that too will be changing soon. What Stone does next, IMO, will better tell us if he is the right guy for the job more than what he has done in the past.
Jalen isn’t luka or harden, nor should we hope he becomes them. That’s my point we just disagree. Silas and his style I believe are terrible for these young guys and it’s why he should be fired and fired as soon as possible. Find a coach that either adjusts to personnel better or runs more motion. But it’s okay you think this system is good for our guys. Just a disagreement. It’s still ugly offense to watch either way lol. Jalens improvement might or might not be better or worse under Silas. We’ll never really know. And our young guys doing things is great. It doesn’t prove anything about winning system or basketball. It’s been enjoyable watching individual improvements, not watching our offense as a team.
You might be right, but Silas runs Luka and Harden type of offenses right? Heavy iso and PnR minimal off ball movements and motion? Or was that just because of personnel
Sengun cuts KMJ cuts Tate cuts Jabari cuts Eason cuts we run high PNR and Mid PNR along with alot of screens /dribble handoffs we lack a C who can stretch the floor which then causes the paint to be clogged for guards on drives, it’s why Sengun gets such good looks on post ups because the defense is actually spread out on shooters We also don’t have the personal of players who can run off screens and catch and shoot - Matthews prob the only one …but if you watch NBA games.. Rockets offense looks similar to a lot teams specially now they taking more midrange …. We miss a lot of corner 3s because KPJ drives so slowly he can’t make that pass 90% of time.
what’s Jabari’s college % on off ball screen shooting? He barely gets any here. KPJ catch n shoot %? Incredibly high right? Why not create some plays or looks towards that a little more often? Why do we not seem to create more situations geared towards our players strengths? In your opinion, what are Jalen, Jabari, KPJ and Sengun strengths offensively?
Jalen is his speed, new found driving ability, creative finishing, midrange / free throw jumper Jabari is his defense and shooting, he’s posting on smalls is getting better as season goes on and he’s getting less offensive fouls when going to post / turnaround jumper KPJ is his catch and shoot 3 - and creative finishing at rim…he’s prob our best ball handler behind TyTy Sengun post moves, creative finishing around rim , passing out of post Rockets offense usually starts with either a Sengun screen for KPJ or Jalen and they look for PnR… then it transitions to dribble handoffs .. to get the switch the ball handler wants Sengun kind of clogs the paint because he’s not a 3pt threat or even midrange threat … we badly need him to develop that KPJ drives too slowly… so even when he beats his man because he hesitates then he ends up shooting tough layups - he also dribbles with his head down and not up and misses a lot of lobs Jabari is really hindered by playing next to EG aka the black hole, dribble off foot assassin. Jalen 3pt shot is off… but everything else is on right now…his passing has improved a lot, he needs stickum because he sometimes runs faster than he dribbles
Yeah, and there's a group of people who say "they ISO everything" ..... not even close to true. Just about everything is pick and roll or dribble handoffs .... It's like they need something to complain about, so they make shiit up ..... totally disingenuous. Sure, they are ~10th in isolation possessions per game but that's really a limited number 7.4% or 8.5 per - particularly when compared to the teams at the top of the list. Dallas commits 13.7% or about 14.6 of their total possessions to isolation, Philly is #2 but well behind at 10.5%, Brooklyn 3rd at 10.2% and the last team in double figures in terms of percentage. (that's right, 10th - NOT 7th like @DominantBig recently stated several times) Teams Isolation | Stats | NBA.com <---- see for yourself. Then you have people asking what isolation is .... like someone moved the goalpost on them because the numbers don't suit the agenda. Isolation is no help from a pick or any other action, simply one player going at his individual defender one. The quality shot numbers you posted were almost a mirror image of my own findings ....
lol i watched a 10 years old playing a lot better brand of basketball with a simple instruction(no shot until all of the 5 players touched the ball at least once) and monitoring from a coach besides this is the problem with rockets and any losers in general, all the ill, sick, fat, unhappy and unsuccessful people in general, they do what MOST of the folks do.... and thats NOT how you become a champion... @Ankara1923 @LeDakota @aaquaa @DreamShook @PeterKingX @AroundTheWorld @J.R. @tinman @harold bingo @ExTxGS @conquistador#11 @CHAMPBOY @mirdirir @Joe Rocket @WestendMassive @Salvy @clutchdabear @berkowsk @j@amc @Killatron 2000 @Dovahkiin @ExTxGS @cmoak1982 @bmelo
In just a short amount of time we can already look back at how ridiculous these takes are. Ok, you don't like Jabari and Jalen--even though they've been developing well--but KEEGAN MURRAY? OVER JABARI AND JALEN? Where did OP and his main go anyway? Too embarrassed to show his face?
Jalen Green can learn defense from Jabari Smith and Tari Eason. Jalen can learn TyTy Floater. Jalen can learn Post Up Moves from Alperen Sengun Jabari Smith can learn Crossover and Dribble Moves from Jalen Green and KPJ. Jabari can learn Post Up moves from Alperen Sengun. It is noticeable that Jalen Green and Jabari are learning new moves. Floater, Hookshot, Post Up, Pump Fakes, No Look Passes similar to Alperen.
THIS IS WHY BAD TEAMS STAY BAD FOREVER its not the lack of talent its the lack of brain power lack of leadership and management
Team always comes before any individual. As far as I understand Tari is the best teammate you would like to have. He always celebrates with any Rox does something nice. Alpi was something similar but more selfish now. The more we get Tari type of players, the more success will come eventually. Can our FO sign more Tariesque players or train them accordingly is the question to be answered.
This. We aren’t trying to be stuck in mediocrity so we need to take advantage while we still own our draft picks. The sweet spot is tanking while getting development which I feel like we are sort of doing this season. Folks will be loathed to admit it but the Rockets are looking better under Silas.
It's not possible that when I looked up the stat we were 7th, and about a week later it changed. No not possible. lol also why are you so upset that some people watch a game of basketball and see iso heavy, PnR to iso-heavy offense as not enjoyable or a future for success? Also, iso for stats has a definition, but when your average fan chats about iso they may mean another thing so why is it bad when someone asks for the iso definition? You seem sensitive. Why do the rockets rank last in assists, 3rd to last is attempted assists, and third to last in potential assists? Last in assist pts created, and bottom 3 in every assist category for team stats? It has to do with the offense, which is why some fans don't like it. I miss post offense and love watching motion offense and off ball movement. We have minimal off ball movement.
Why do the three youngest teams in the NBA have the last 3 out of 4 spots in the league in assists per game? Are Franz Wagner and Banchero failures because their team is right with us here?
