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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by D-rock, Nov 30, 2022.

  1. gfab-babyboi

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    Green really good games comes with he stays out with 2nd unit… remember he was having 10-15 Pt 3rd qtrs.

    Last 2 games Denver 2nd unit just bullied the Goon squad …which in turn made Jalen force a lot of tough shots - I would like to see him and KMJ run more PnR until Tari becomes a better finisher at rim
     
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    lol
    KM n momster are hot tempered, 'cut da ****' kinda guy, i bet once they meet silass in person, they can beat the shiiiit outta da dummy
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    That look in km's face is soooooo classic…which could be used by meme squad for 10yrs or more.
     
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    'working man. And spending time with family.'
    D-rock
     
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  6. J Sizzle

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    Coaching matters
     
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    Stop starting Gordon and replace him with KJ Martin. If he wasn't such a high pick you'd swap Smith for Eason too
     
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    A coach is only as good as the players on the roster and team he has. That's always been the case and will remain true
     
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    I dont think this team is as bad as their record. Gordon should not be starting...period!

    KMJ should be in the starting lineup, Nix is horrible, he's lazy on defense, will not penetrate and he doesn't bring energy and like I've been saying this team needs to get bigger in the paint. They better teams have size, we are still too small.
     
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    yes this team is as bad as their record. No coach is going to overcome extreme youth and inexperience. that's just reality and the nature of a full rebuild. too many folks fail to understand that
     
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    We'll disagree on that. I think if Silas would just start KJ and play TYTY as the backup point over Nix this team would be better.

    To me, they are trying to make room for EG and Nix and they do not deserve minutes.
     
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    you can disagree if you want. There's no such thing in reality as a coach overcoming extreme youth and inexperience. doesn't really matter what fantasy world you want to live in or make yourself try to believe.
     
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    The only time anybody said anything negative about Sengun and they had to include KPJ. Lol
     
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    EG has half assed it on D majority of the year …Green still has trouble with stronger guards
    KPJ still lackadaisical, sags off too much (ball watching)
    Jabari is running all over the place trying to cover mistakes or switches with guards - and has trouble with older stronger bigger players, silly swipe fouls
    Sengun has trouble with bigger / more physical / athletic C …silly fouls
    Nix can’t stay infront of no body
    KMJ gets stuck on either guards or in post where his weakside blocking ability is eliminated

    etc etc etc … young team and I feel as they get stronger physically the defense will improve with changes to Nix and EG
     
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    Defense is about effort and scheme and it looks like we are lacking from and effort and coaching perspective. So no matter who plays with all we are going to suck!
     
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    https://theathletic.com/3959374/2022/12/02/rockets-jalen-green-center/

    • The options at center are going to be a talking point all season long. It’s kind of like in Pokémon where you have to pick one out of three to start with, and each option comes with strengths and weaknesses. The same applies here to Sengun, Garuba and Bruno Fernando: Sengun is good offensively and limited defensively. Garuba is good defensively and limited offensively. And Fernando is limited offensively and defensively.

    • Sengun’s production — 15.5 points, 9.1 rebounds, 2.3 assists makes it near-impossible to bring off the bench, especially given the fact Fernando has not been the same since returning from injury. Sengun’s offensive importance is well-stated with Houston scoring 115.2 points per 100 possessions with him on the floor (72nd percentile, good!). But the Rockets are hemorrhaging points with him on the floor, giving up a whopping 119.2 points per 100 possession according to Cleaning the Glass. That’s the ninth percentile of efficiency, bad.

    • Fernando will take some time to get back into game shape and rhythm, but the Rockets defense is even worse when he’s on the floor. Their defense falls from ninth to second percentile — really, really bad. You’re not going to win many games if your team plays at a rate of 124.2 points given up per 100 possessions when you’re on the floor. That might explain why Fernando’s minutes have fallen from 17 to eight and seven in his last three outings.

    • Garuba, on the other hand, continues to impress with every game he plays, especially defensively. He’s the best defender of the trio by far, with Houston defending at a league-average rate when he’s on the floor — surrendering 112.8 points per 100 possessions. It’s not perfect, but it’s something. He’s doing a bit of everything now within his range of comfort. Never mind that he’s somehow shooting 63.6 percent (!) from deep (it will come down, let Rockets Twitter enjoy it while it lasts), but he’s trying to understand the game better. Cutting, making reads and just being in the right spots. All of it helps.

    • Losing 16 of your first 21 games doesn’t offer up great lineup combinations long term, but Martin and Eason should be playing more. There’s proof.
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    The Rockets just play with a different swagger when both are on the floor. Advanced metrics are never the catch-all when diving into teams — especially bad ones — but something has to be said about Houston’s most used lineups a quarter through the season, Martin and Eason’s presence among these seven and their positive net ratings. If the Rockets want to play better basketball, Martin (especially) and Eason need bigger roles.

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    The diagnosis and the analysis about centers is wrong and your solution indicates that. The problem is not the center, it is the guard trio Porter-Green-Gordon, who lacks defensive effort and team defense. They have average one-on-one defense and that's all they offer. Any basic ball movement or screens by the opponent will crush them easily and no center will be able to offset that. What is worse, Silas is running these 3 with Jabari, who is also an inexperienced player, makes rookie mistakes (similar to Sengun's last year) and also very weak physically. That is a recipe for disaster.

    Your solution is to play Tari and KJ more. Yes, this succeeds because it precisely means you have to break the guard trio, take one of them off the court, which does not take anything from the offense, because they do not score through complex plays that include all of them but adds to the defense.
     
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  19. D-rock

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    All 3 centers play with the same guards. How is analysis and diagnosis wrong?
     
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    I don't have access to the original article. From what I read here:

    The article starts with 'The options at center are going to be a talking point all season long.'. From this, and the following analysis of the centers and seeing no comment on guards, I understand that the article argues that the problem is with the centers, the argument being that each of them offering one part of the game but not the other. This is why I say the diagnosis is wrong and exactly because they all play with the same guards. The problem is with the guards no center will solve that. The analysis on each center is correct though.

    As I mentioned in the above post, the playing of KJ and Eason together having positive results strongly supports what I say. Because that means one of the guards is not on the floor.
     
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