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We need a Point Guard!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CHAMPBOY, Nov 12, 2022.

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Do you think we need a new point guard or keep KPJ as our point guard?

  1. Keep KPJ

    15 vote(s)
    19.0%
  2. Trade for a Point Guard

    64 vote(s)
    81.0%
  1. eliefor3

    eliefor3 Member

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    This is going to sound crazy but I think Westbrook might be a good fit for this team if he comes in with the mindset that he will play more facilitator than scorer. I say him bc he might be a easy get (trade asset wise) and maybe it will make Lakers better
     
  2. King1

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    The majority of the board has been saying it.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Because the vast majority of people aren't down with what the org is trying to do. I am not saying KPJ is perfect, and he stunk the last game, but the two before that he was damned good.

    It is a roller coaster when you are developing - and most people don't have the patience for it....

    This is what the org wants, it is what they are trying to do, we can all remain frustrated and b**** all year long - or just ride along and see.

    DD
     
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  4. flamingdts

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    I don't think anyone here knows what the organization wants.

    For all we know, the Rockets are well aware of the issue, but they are deliberately moving forward with this path because they want to keep losing games, and they want to drive up enough value to trade KPJ for a good return.

    One thing is clear, KPJ has absolute development priority on this team, over every other player. Regardless of what the organization is planning, it is absolutely frustrating that the entire team resolves around KPJ when this team is loaded with young talent that need focus as well.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    I don't think even that is clear.....there is no one else to play the spot on the entire team right now......so we are just going to ride along and see.....

    He either eventually gets consistent or he doesn't and he goes......oh well, we suck with him or without him....especially on D....

    DD
     
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  6. daywalker02

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    I feel similarly, we think we got the organization all figured out but we don't know real ish.

    Heck, it doesn't mean they are right all the time, they run into a wall, and run and run till they figured out a way around it or through it.

    The organization is bigger than one individual and that is KPJ and I hope they act like it.
     
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  7. Cstyle42

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    Without a competent point guard you won't win an championship period.
     
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  8. fattz

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    Or make the playoffs in most cases
     
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  9. maj21

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    You also won’t win one with a center that can’t play any defense
     
  10. PatBev

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    Either KPJ improves as a point guard or he’ll lead you to Scoot, Amen, or Nick Smith Jr.

    Everyone wants a veteran point but we might miss out on a top 5 pick if we traded for somebody now

    Everybody relax
     
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  11. HangTime

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    Either way, the rockets need a PG period. The backup position is pathetic, nix looks like some guy off church league that played a little in high school.
     
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  12. arno_ed

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    So he isn't a good fit... We know his mindset. If it didn't change for Harden and Lebron it is not going to change for Green. I think he is basically the only PG that is worse for our team than KPJ...
     
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    Star Josh Christopher
     
  14. mfastx

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    We need a lot of things lol.
     
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  15. King1

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    His contact is set up so they can cut ties after this season. We are tanking so letting him play pg only enhances our draft position. Stone doesn't care because it's irrelevant as we don't have another pg on th roster. Silas loves him obviously but Silas is also the worst coach in the NBA

    We just have already seen he's not a pg. He's suited to the 6th man role. That's fine but let's not pretend that a team can win with him at the point. He's a losing player who dribbles the air out of the ball. He's also stunting the growth of our other young players because he's selfish.

    I'm personally sick of him. I don't enjoy watching him play. If he wasn't selfish and a drama queen people would probably be more patient with him but he brings this on himself. He's done it every place he's ever played. He's not growing up at all
     
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  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    We were discussing this on Rocket's watch with @Clutch and usually you can look at what they are doing and figure out the strategy, but right now? I have nary a clue.......are they tanking, are they seriously in love with KPJ, are they ok without having a proper system, how can Sengun play so well and be benched?

    I mean, WTF is their strategy?

    Maddening - very maddening.

    DD
     
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  17. eliefor3

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    He seemed to do better in Washington then he die in Houston or LA. Again a long shot but I think he is capable
     
  18. steddinotayto

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    There’s a better chance that TyTy can develop into a better point guard (if given the minutes) than what we’ve seen from Porter and Nix. If that’s true then it’s unfortunate that Silas is really that stubborn/dumb
     
  19. flamingdts

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    If Tyty can protect the ball, bring it up the court, move the ball around different spots, he would basically be doing better than Nix/KPJ at PG already.

    The "Goon squad" that the Rockets fielded today had Nix, Green, KMJ, Eason and Garuba/Sengun, and it was clear as day Nix was the weakest link. He can't protect the ball and he doesn't hustle.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    We need a coach first.

    DD
     

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