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Ilhan Omar tweets and other news

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Just saw that Samuels has conceded to Omar.
     
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    Awesome. Congrats to Omar.
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    For those wondering Royce White lost the Republican primary.
     
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    #BeWell
     
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    Great response. ..made it close and the message was working with other people instead of just about ones self or a narrow segment of constituencies
     
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    He seems more interested in attacking her than actually showing leadership. He's telling her what to do, but says nothing about what he will do. Definitely he has no interest in working with her.
     
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    Should I be alarm?
     
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    That image is equating a Muslim American with Al Qaeda for, at worst, a clumsy bit of dialogue.
     
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    More like at best, no?
     
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    This presumption that those words imply that she doesn’t think 9/11 was a horrific crime is plainly wrong, and people continuing to take those words out of context to equate her and people like her with terrorists just disgusts me.


    “Here’s the truth," Omar said. "For far too long we have lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen and, frankly, I’m tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it. CAIR was founded after 9/11 because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties."​

    This was said in a speech to a Muslim audience in the aftermath of New Zealand mosque shootings that left 50 people dead in 2019.

    The horror of 9/11 wasn’t what she was speaking to. People talk about 9/11 as a thing that happened all the time. There is an understanding that we all generally recognize how awful it was and so there isn’t a need to explicitly state it each time it is referenced. But she is treated like an enemy — exactly what she was talking about — and so a neutral reference to 9/11 is taken as evidence that she doesn’t recognize it as a crime.
     
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    Remeber when the squad was a thing and all republicans were freaking out about them.

    Omar has always come off as front-runner, and it seems a lot of people agree with me.
     
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    The truth doesn't need all of that convincing, man. She made a mistake is her best case scenario. It happens.
     
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    It shouldn't be on her (or me) to convince others that she recognizes that 9/11 was a horrific crime, but some people unfortunately need that convincing. As a politician and a Muslim immigrant, she should have known how her words would be construed. That was her mistake. That's not an excuse for the racist vitriol directed against her.
     
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    You're trying too hard. You know the quote sounded terrible. She made a mistake. It was disrespectful. Only a wild imagination justifies it. Good job.
     
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    It really doesn't. It seems like a random comment that has no meaning without context. You are a victim of bubbled media telling you to think this way. If you heard her say this without any social commentary from whatever source you get your news from, you wouldn't find anything odd or hurtful about her comments.
     
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    She and AOC are two of the dumbest politicians ever
     
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    What exactly is the argument you're raising here? I said it's no worse that a poorly worded sentence, and you say it's no better than a poorly worded sentence. Fine, then we can agree at least that it was a poorly worded sentence and she should have been smarter not to use it. I would add that's especially so given the target on her back by the right-wing national media.

    The bigger point is that this doesn't justify referring to her as a terrorist. Do you want to argue that is justified?
     
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    I didn't refer to her as a terrorist. People who say that are likely exaggerating to make the point that she doesn't "love" America. I have no idea.
     

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