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The Jalen Green Experience is Coming

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Nov 9, 2021.

  1. D-rock

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    Easier said than done.

    Those line drives to rim is like looking at a car wreck about to happen, you know and everyone watching know that something horrific is going to happen but just hoping against hope that a miracle will happen.

    And on rare occasion a miracle DOES happen.
     
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  2. RocketsLegend

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    Seeing Cade and Mobley reking the league is depressing me
     
  3. D-rock

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    I give you this info then you re-regurgitate it back to me wrapped up like it's something else, WTF is wrong with you????

    Eric Gordon is shooting 44% at 5.1 3PA.

    Wood shooting 37% at 4.8 3PA.

    Mathews is shooting 3ball at 37% at 6.5 per attempt.

    And KPJ shooting 34% at 5.7 3PA.

    WHAT IS YOUR F'ING POINT????

    I imagine Mobley would have only IMPROVED those 3ball averages for Rockets too.

    Don't tell me you didn't even read the linked article?

    I'm giving you freebies and you still fvck it up, JHC man.

    Here's another freebie:

    https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2022...lend-of-talent-and-chemistry-chris-fedor.html

    Garland has made the third-year leap, morphing into the team leader, engine of the offense, a potential All-Star and one of the league’s best point guards. Allen, who drew the assignment against Antetokounmpo Wednesday, will also garner All-Star consideration. Mobley is transcendent -- the frontrunner for Rookie of the Year and a legitimate Defensive Player of the Year candidate who looks like a video game create-a-player. He’s already changed the trajectory of the franchise -- and is only scratching the surface.

    Those three are the franchise cornerstones. They accelerated this process.
     
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    We were talking about the 3 big statement you made, involving bigs. It doesn’t work without shooting.
     
  5. D-rock

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    You still being purposefully dense.

    3 big lineup does NOT work without Mobley's versatility.

    Otherwise every team could field three 7 footers as successfully as Cavs, even if 1 of the bigs was a dead eye 3ball shooter.

    Rockets could have fielded just as good if not better 3 big lineup with Jarrett Allen - Christian Wood - Evan Mobley. Wood is shooting better from 3 than Markkanen.

    Mobley with Turner and Sabonis would be just as deadly on defense, if not more.

    If Bulls drafted Mobley, then Markkanen and Vucevic would also have worked.

    Precious, Boucher and Mobley on Raptors would have been extremely tough.

    Poku, JRE and Mobley would also be formidable.

    Without Mobley, these teams would struggle with TWO BIGS LINEUP, nevermind 3 BIGS. Think back on Cavs piss poor last season with JA-Love lineups even with Sexton playing at near All Star level.

    Now just imagine Wood, Olynyk/Sengun and Mobley.

    Mobley fixes spacing issues on offense and back ups both bigs in paint AND on perimeter.
     
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  6. NewAge

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    This 63% includes alley-oops and breakaway dunks and layups. That’s not his percentage on drives to the rim.
    If you want to build his confidence you need to design some actions for him: getting him the ball on the move, having him cut, etc. That’s when he’s been efficient. Just telling him "get to the rim and finish" won’t work, he can’t do it.
     
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  7. Reeko

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    alley oops and breakaway dunks comprise a miniscule portion of that 63%…he literally has only 24 dunks on the season, and not all of those dunks are on the fastbreak either as a few of them have been in halfcourt situations where he blew by his man

    also, his percentage of points scored on the fastbreak is 15%…that equates to 2 ppg

    obviously there’s ways to get him more shots at the basket…it’s not like I said give him the ball at the top of the key and tell him to just drive

    nice try tho
     
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  8. NewAge

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    you’re not very good at numbers.
    Jalen Green only averages just over 2 FGs at 0-3ft from the basket (2.17 to be exact). So what you think is a small number of alley-oop dunks and fast break dunks/layups is actually a large portion of his baskets at the rim. These are with close to 100% FG%. To get to 63% it means that the other few remaining attempts at the rim are at a very low percentage. I can walk you through the numbers in more detail if you need help.

    Simply, If it’s not a fast break or alley-oop he’s just not good at the rim.
     
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  9. Reeko

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    here’s where you’re not good at numbers…15% of points coming on the fastbreak isn’t just from layups and dunks, he’s been launching threes in transition too

    24 dunks, and not all of those dunks are even on the fastbreak, so it’s already been established that fastbreak dunks or alley oops are an insignificant amount of his percentage

    he is averaging 0.9 made 2 point field goals within the 1st 6 seconds of the shot clock, and attempts 1.7 2 point field goals within that shot clock range so as we can see, he is not 100% from the field on the fastbreak

    12.7% of his 2 point field goal attempts are within the 1st 6 seconds…he takes 27% of his shots from 0-3 feet and is shooting 63%

    try again
     
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    Let’s hope Jalen Green sucks enough relative to Mobley so the Rockets get another crack at a top pick.

    Maybe pick the unicorn this time??
     
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  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Of course the NBA is pushing the garbage that is the G league.....they push the WNBA too, doesn't mean it's a quality level of competition......it means they want those leagues to make some money. For that to happen, they need people to decide to watch those rec league caliber games.

    I remember this being your narrative ahead of the draft in order to justify picking Green, the "he played against grown ass men" argument.....how's that looking now?

    I spelled out to you then that you won't find any top tier players in the G league like you will in the NCAA....the best players from the NCAA go directly to the NBA or to overseas leagues.....only some of the trash that is not good enough for those superior leagues ends up in the G league. When you cut off all of the top tier talent, it tanks the level of competition.....that's why top teams in the NCAA are better than ANY G league team.

    That's also why guys like Isaiah Hartenstein can put up 25/15 in the G league at a time where they are barely good enough to see any playing time at all at the NBA level.

    Sorry guy, but your attempt to prop up the G league has completely fallen on its face.
     
  13. J.R.

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    “I’M SuPeR HaPpY WiTh jAlEn. ThE ImPrOvEmEnT He’s mAdE SiNcE DaY 1 Is jUsT FaSt. He’s jUsT On a gReAt cUrVe, FrOm mY PeRsPeCtIvE. sO, wE’Re rEaLlY HaPpY.”

     
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  14. daywalker02

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    I am your oyster, Jalen.

    Signed, Rafael.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Where's Jaygup? Remember, that's Greens insurance if he sucks
     
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  16. J.R.

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    Might be him at -20.

    Buried under there but I can see Tilman’s Credit Karma jersey patch. :D
     
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  17. Bobbythegreat

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    I kind of prefer this one, it shows just who has deserved their minutes and maybe who deserves even more.

    Also, it shows just how there's no real argument about ROY.

     
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  18. SamFisher

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    Mobley is not on the team - Michael Jordan was passed over for Olajuwon.

    Things happen, move on.
     
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  19. NewAge

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    Is it common for a rookie draft class to have only a singly player who adds value? Or is this a particularly bad class?
     
  20. NewAge

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    urghhh, you tied yourself in a pretzel here. There’s an easier way to do this…
    Tell you what. JG has 72FGs at the rim in total. Tell me what is your estimate of how many are uncontested dunks and layups. We need to subtract those to get to actual FG% in competitive action.
    Just give me your estimate, I can’t follow your mess.
     

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