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Barkley "They're Paying John Wall to sit at Home"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Le$$, Oct 28, 2021.

  1. J.R.

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  2. Dobbizzle

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    Anybody ready for Wall to play yet, or are you still deluding yourselves that anybody else on the team is close to as good a PG?
     
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    Erotic massages might work.
     
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  4. DreamShakeFTW

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    I think Wall should be starting alongside Green, KPJ, Wood and Theis/Sengun.
    The main 4 young core guys would still get the playing time they need and they'd be free to play their game without the pressure of leading the team.
    The Rockets would likely be a play-in team.
    And that's the problem.
    Tanking sucks.

    P.S. Nobody is going to be interested in trading for Wall until they know he can play.
     
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  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Yes, that is probably true, they are not starting Wall because they know we would probably be much better and are seriously tanking another year.

    They could still do this and accelerate their growth by playing Wall but I guess that ain't happening.

    I don't want to see ANY thread that says,.....WHERE ARE THE FANS.....the Rockets are exciting....**** THAT - the Rockets have the job of putting a competitive team on the floor, now if they are tanking, suck it up buttercup, we aren't stupid enough to come spend money on that crap....

    DD
     
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  6. Dobbizzle

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    Agree with everything except the play in team part. Wall is a very good NBA player, he's not a superstar at this point in his career. Him and Sengun isn't enough to get us in the play in, nobody else is close to being a difference maker on the court. We'd be a lotto team regardless, probably still a top pick.
     
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  7. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    why bother? You really think we will get into the playoffs if he plays? The only thing he might potentially do is make our pick odds worse. I rather see what our current backcourt can learn from this season.
     
  8. DreamShakeFTW

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    You only have to make the top 10 of 15 western teams. I could see it. They would be better than OKC, Sac and NOLA for sure. So just need to overtake 2 more teams.
    The point was that they would be getting a worse draft pick because of a better record.
    The object is to win games.
     
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    He did teach Jalen Green some moves tho. He’s good in their development of the rookies

     
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  10. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Did he mistake Wall for Verlander and Watson?
     
  11. Easy

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    I am okay to play Wall in a limited capacity (the so-called load management thing). Wall might give the kids some kind of veteran structure on the court. However, Wall is not known to be a great floor general kind of PG. He's more of a score first kind of guy. So I don't know how much "good" influence developmental-wise he can provide to the young players.

    Again, winning is not the top priority. Learning how to win is.
     
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    I’d argue KPJ just from a development and future role perspective primarily, Wall is likely destined for a 6 man role and KPJ needs to be tested fully as a starting pg.

    Yet to your point Wall should probably still be ranked slightly higher as a PG as this stage.
     
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    Right now though, KPJ learning is affecting the other rookies and vice versa. Wall is a real NBA point guard, a multiple all star and one of very few people in the last decade to average 10 assists a game and he's done it multiple times. He's not slightly higher than KPJ he's so far higher that they're not even remotely close. Run Wall with Green, Garuba, Sengun and Christopher so they have a real PG to learn with, on the flip side run KPJ with Gordon, Tate, KJ and Wood so he has actual NBA level players as targets so he can learn to play point. To remotely claim KPJ is a better PG than John Wall suggests a heavy meth addiction or complete loss of reality, and that's a fact.
     
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    Yeah...

    John Wall is a vastly superior PG and it's not close.

    This is what John Wall averaged last season in a bad year:

    • PTS
      20.6
    • REB
      3.2
    • AST
      6.9
    • PER
      15.46
    • Turnovers: 3.5
    This is what KPJ is averaging so far this season:

    • PTS
      12.5
      Tied-108th
    • REB
      4.2
      Tied-132nd
    • AST
      5.0
      32nd
    • PER
      8.44
      150+
    • Turnovers: 5.3

    I seriously don't see how other players can be fairly evaluated with a "PG" who is playing like that. Dude is averaging more turnovers than assists...
     
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    The thing with a lot of people on this forum is they don't actually watch basketball. Anybody who does knows that Wall has a proven career of being a great point guard, not the scrub they all keep making him out to be. Considering Silas' performance this season and his lack of system, I'm no longer convinced the mess last year was just everybody playing selfish crap. It's the exact same worthless system we're seeing this year, we just no longer have John Wall and Dipo running it, we have players who aren't remotely as good so it's failing even harder. Wall has a proven track record of years of being an all-star quality point, Silas has a year and a bit of absolutely trash looking "system" and offense, people need to go back and watch our games from last year, it's the EXACT SAME ****!
     
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    He's no Davis Mills but he gets the job done.
     
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    No to James Harden, but yet to John Wall.

    k
     
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    CP3 says hi
     
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    Tank commander's got remote control.
     
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