Mitch McConnell is to turtle-faced as is to pig-faced. She just announced that the RNC will sue the Biden adminstration over federal vaccination mandate, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...-administration-over-federal-vaccine-n1278872 hope she follows thru; this could backfired, as it could be a winning issue for the Dems to run on in 2022
The Republican Party is the reason we have hundreds of thousands of dead Americans. They are as Anti-Christian as it gets. They simply don't care about human life. They disgust me. They have killed more Americans than terrorists ever dreamed of. Hitler, Mussolini, and the Republican Party are all in the same twisted mindset of killers for power.
@Os Trigonum An article on The Fedealist got it right this time https://thefederalist.com/2015/02/03/the-insane-vaccine-debate/ Oliver Wendell Holmes articulated a good libertarian principle when he said, "The right to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins." Holmes' observation is particularly salient in the case of whooping cough shots. Infants cannot be vaccinated against whooping cough (pertussis), so their protection against this dangerous disease depends upon the fact that most of the rest of us are immunized. Unfortunately, as immunization refusals have increased in recent years, so have whooping cough infections. The annual number of pertussis cases fell from 200,000 pre-vaccine to a low of 1,010 in 1976. Last year, the number of reported cases rose to 48,277, the highest since 1955. Eighteen infants died of the disease in 2012, up from just four in 1976. The trend is affecting other diseases as well. In 2005, an intentionally unvaccinated 17-year-old Indiana girl brought measles back with her from a visit to Romania, and ended up infecting 34 people. Most of them were also intentionally unvaccinated, but a medical technician who had been vaccinated caught the disease as well, and was hospitalized. Another intentionally unvaccinated 7-year-old boy in San Diego sparked an outbreak of measles in 2008. The kid, who caught the disease in Switzerland, ended up spreading his illness to 11 other children, all of whom were also unvaccinated, putting one infant in the hospital. Forty-eight other children younger than vaccination age had to be quarantined. Some people object to applying Holmes' aphorism by arguing that aggression can only occur when someone intends to hit someone else; microbes just happen. However, being intentionally unvaccinated against highly contagious airborne diseases is, to extend the metaphor, like walking down a street randomly swinging your fists without warning. You may not hit an innocent bystander, but you've substantially increased the chances. Those harmed by the irresponsibility of the unvaccinated are not being accorded the inherent equal dignity and rights every individual possesses. The autonomy of the unvaccinated is trumping the autonomy of those they put at risk.
ALCU argues for mandate https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/civil-liberties-and-vaccine-mandates-heres-our-take/ Far from compromising civil liberties, vaccine mandates actually further civil liberties. They protect the most vulnerable among us, including people with disabilities and fragile immune systems, children too young to be vaccinated and communities of color hit hard by the disease. Vaccine requirements also safeguard those whose work involves regular exposure to the public, like teachers, doctors and nurses, bus drivers and grocery store employees. And by inoculating people from the disease’s worst effects, the vaccines offer the promise of restoring to all of us our most basic liberties, eventually allowing us to return safely to life as we knew it, in schools and at houses of worship and political meetings, not to mention at restaurants, bars, and gatherings with family and friends.
Effectively anti-vax with the toddler level of outrages and anger from most Republican leaders about vaccines mandates. Everybody wants individualism and everyone supports at least some limits. These anti-vax Republican leaders aren't again common laws, common defense, and law enforcement, all of which places limits on individualism. But when it comes to vax and common health of the nation, they carve out a special case. There were always a few (across the political spectrum), but this level of the party as a whole being against vax for common health was not the case just 5 years ago. So, no, individualism isn't quite it either. It's something else.
Health care workers quitting rather than getting the vaccine: A New York hospital has been forced to temporarily stop delivering babies after several staff quit over the vaccine mandate https://news.yahoo.com/york-hospital-forced-temporarily-stop-091444877.html excerpt The mass resignation of maternity staff caused a New York hospital to stop delivering babies. At least six maternity-unit staff chose to resign rather than get vaccinated, 7News reported. The service will pause after September 27 so that the hospital can recruit vaccinated staff. Lewis County General Hospital in Lowville, New York, will temporarily stop delivering babies after several maternity-unit workers resigned over a COVID-19 vaccine mandate, 7 News reported. At least six employees in the maternity quit because they didn't want to get vaccinated. And another seven are undecided about doing so, according to Lewis County Health System chief executive officer, Gerald Cayer. The hospital will be unable to safely staff the unit, Cayer told the outlet, and will pause the service after September 24.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bi...ndate-employers-11631311326?mod=hp_opin_pos_1 Biden’s Vaccine Command Thou shalt be inoculated or risk losing your job. By The Editorial Board Sept. 10, 2021 6:27 pm ET How far President Biden has come from his campaign and inaugural pledges to unify the country and defeat Covid-19. On Thursday he blamed his fellow Americans and political opponents for the surge of Covid this summer, and he ordered them to be vaccinated or risk losing their jobs. “We’ve been patient, but our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost all of us,” he declared in a deeply polarizing speech laying out his orders from the White House. Take that, unvaccinated Americans. You’re costing him. So now he’s sticking it to you. There were some useful notes in his speech. Mr. Biden is directing the feds to surge healthcare workers, testing and monoclonal antibody treatments to hot spots. Excellent. He’s also ordering federal workers and those employed at contractors to get vaccinated. That’s his prerogative. The federal government doesn’t want its employees getting sick any more than private businesses do. But his national mandate on business is needless overkill in a free country. He’s forcing all private employers with more than 100 workers—two-thirds of the workforce—to require vaccinations or weekly testing. The non-compliant can be dunned $14,000 per violation. Many large businesses already require vaccinations or regular testing, and some have offered workers financial incentives to get inoculated. A few have been more forceful. Yet many businesses have been reluctant to mandate shots because they respect individual conscience or worry some employees will quit. Workers have been hard to hire amid the incentives Democrats have created not to work. Mr. Biden thinks that’s not his problem. Employers understandably have concerns about compliance and enforcement. Are they supposed to pay for unvaccinated workers’ weekly testing, and what kind of proof of testing or vaccination must they require? Will franchisees and corporations be liable as joint employers? Nobody knows. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s (OSHA) Emergency Temporary Standards code allows it to enact a rule if “workers are in grave danger due to exposure to toxic substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or to new hazards.” But Mr. Biden is stretching the government’s authority. OSHA has typically applied this to particular industries. In June it required healthcare facilities to create plans to prevent Covid transmission, though nearly all were already doing this. It has also required employers whose employees may be exposed to Hepatitis B to pay for worker vaccinations. But OSHA has never mandated vaccinations. Mr. Biden’s logic is also contradictory. In his speech he stressed that the vaccinated are safe from serious Covid. Yet he said the unvaccinated must protect the vaccinated. In fact, the unvaccinated are mainly a danger to themselves and their loved ones who aren’t vaccinated. The President blamed unvaccinated Americans for clogging up “emergency rooms and intensive care units, leaving no room for someone with a heart attack, or pancreatitis, or cancer.” This is false. Some hospitals have cancelled elective surgeries, but they’ve done so to ensure that people who need urgent care can get it—whether for Covid or something else. He also berated governors for failing to protect their own citizens and who “are keeping us from turning the corner.” He mentioned no states by name, but he referred to those that barred mask mandates in schools. He means GOP states. But states with Democratic governors like Louisiana, North Carolina and Oregon have also experienced virus surges this summer, and few of them have imposed vaccine mandates. Vaccination rates are also no better in big cities controlled by Democrats than in GOP states. In Miami-Dade County, 79% of those eligible are fully vaccinated and 66% in Orange County (Orlando). That’s higher than in Chicago’s Cook County (63%), the Bronx (62%), Clark County around Las Vegas (54%) and Detroit’s Wayne County (53%). Mr. Biden may be reading polls that show vaccine mandates are popular, at least among Democrats. He promised last fall to “kill the virus,” and declared victory too soon in June. He’s now trying to blame the virus surge on everyone else in angry, accusatory rhetoric. These columns have supported the vaccine effort from the start, but we also believe in free choice and persuasion. Mr. Biden’s polarizing commands may stiffen the resistance of many on the political right, and they are certain to cost many people their jobs. They aren’t necessary, and they show again that the progressive policy default is always brute political force. Appeared in the September 11, 2021, print edition.
Bound to happen elsewhere too. A 10,000 feet level view that tell us to mandate covid vaccines: Short and longer term nurse and health care worker shortage due to covid-stress + at least 3600 health care workers covid death + overcrowding of hospitals throughout the nations due to unvaccinated + 670,000 US covid death + daily 1000 covid death About 1 in 5 Clinicians Considers Quitting Due to Pandemic: Survey (medscape.com) 12 Months of Trauma: More Than 3,600 US Health Workers Died in Covid’s First Year | Kaiser Health News (khn.org)
They’re irresponsible ****ing idiots. Imagine working with patients, some immunocompromised and being a vector for a dangerous disease. Sadly nursing culture these days especially the younger ones buy into stupid ****
So awesome. Following in the footsteps of George Washington who mandated inoculation against small pox.
my wife floated the theory this morning that there's a class dimension to the anti-vaxx movement among health care and hospital workers, but I'm wondering if it's more of a rural culture thing (realizing there's considerable overlap between class/rural). Is the urban hospital environment basically the same in terms of anti-vaxx or do you think there's a rural/urban line there somewhere?
It’s really just one group of people that are resistant (young/new) nurses. They buy into a ton of misinformation. I have yet to run into a physician or other worker touting anti-vax. Older nurses come from a different culture and know that vaccines are what made polio, measles etc a thing of the past. rural maybe a bit more because they’re isolated from the effects of covid that bigger cities have seen
Rural people are also more likely to think Jesus is their vaccine… I actually have a neighbor that has a sign that says that in his yard.
The republicans in Texas have made it clear….the government can regulate people’s bodies and choice is no longer a thing. You have six weeks to get vaccinated, else you can be turned in for a bounty.
Shouldn't the immunocompromised patients have already been vaccinated and if they haven't are they not responsible for putting themselves at risk? If the claims about being vaccinated are true, anti-vaxxers only put themselves and other anti-vaxxers at risk of infection and hospitals.
People that are immunocompromised (as the name indicates) don’t mount as effective of an immune response and can’t take some live vaccines. The vaccine isn’t 100% perfect so they are still putting everyone at risk
