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Afghanistan 2021

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. King1

    King1 Contributing Member

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    A lot of people ****ed this up. Can't really toss the blame on anyone individually. Bush 2 started it, Obama ****ed up really bad as well and I'd say Trump and Biden certainly didn’t get it right. They all culpable
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    I do t think you understand my point is here.

    My point is that for this country to be united on leaving, Trump would have to have done it due to the implication that liberals are typically going to be consistent in their pacifism and the right will follow the cult if personality that is Trump or default to their warhawk position.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Of course, out GREED OVER PEOPLE government is a good portion of the problem.

    Doesn't change the FACT that there were 310k armed locals that laid down.

    DD
     
  4. Mathloom

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    Stop it dude, you created a government practically no one was willing to fight for even in the face of the Taliban. It's a massive failure of the trainer and the trainee, their collective bosses should fire them for this performance.
     
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    that troop was fighting for American interest. the collapse came at the same time when Americans left. your tax dollars worked well.
     
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    16000 French soldiers and 1000 British soldiers died from Dunkirk.

    How many Americans have died so far from the evacuation?

    I'm assuming you want the numbers pumped up so you can win internet arguments.
     
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    I love that he throws the NY Post front page out there like it is a serious thing.

    This has just as much sway:

     
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    This press conference is dizzying. Should they go to the airport or not?
     
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    Congrats to the Taliban for obtaining millions upon millions of US small arms ammo, m9 pistols, M4 rifles, sniper rifles, about half a dozen helicopters, half a dozen half million dollar sophisticated MRAP vehicles, body armor and dozens upon dozens of humvess …what a disaster
     
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    The North Vietnamese won, the Taliban won and Drugs won the war on Drugs.

    Gotta stop picking fights that are impossible to win.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    This was inevitable. We handed a bunch of poor people with no national identity or will to fight our equipment for those with strong ideologies that they are willing to die for to grab from.
     
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  16. DaDakota

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    We didn't create that government the MULTINATIONAL group that went there in 2001-2 did.....we stayed there too long.......

    The middle East is one ****ED UP region, so many tribes just b****ing at each other - the only countries that succeed over in that **** can place of the world is the ones that rule with an iron fist.

    We aren't willing to do that, we aren't trying to grow our country, so stop trying to build something else....it won't work unless it comes from them.

    Hell we ****ED Up Iran, in the 1950s we overthrew their democratically elected government because he was going to nationalize the oil wells that our big businesses owned...so we ran him out, put in the shah, and ****ed up a **** hole region even more.

    Until they get rid of their reliance on the mythology of Islam - like the US is doing in kicking out Christianity.......it will continue to be a cess pool....get away from OIL as a country and let them eat sand......focus on the good ole USA

    DD
     
  17. Ubiquitin

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    Prediction: Afghanistan withdraw will get Biden a lot of blue collar Trump voters (America First Types) while costing him with the NATO, globalist crowd.

    Essentially he reversed Trumps voter realignment.
     
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    One suicide bomb at Kabul airport changes that....
     
  19. Ubiquitin

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    Meaning we go back in guns a blazing?
     
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