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The Harden doesn't have any help crowd is looking bad

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pringles09, Feb 2, 2021.

  1. Rocket River

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    Wood and Tate were the HELP
    Everyone else was a 50/50 ball

    Rocket River
     
  2. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN
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    And now the "Harden doesn't have any help" crowd is looking correct. It's crazy how a week or two can change things.
     
  3. hakeem94

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    remember that 5 games losing streak in the first cp3 season here?
     
  4. Rockets4Life13

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    Uhm, sorry but no.

    Wood is our best player and he's been out and we have lost every game since. Before that we were on a good streak of games.

    It's like saying Harden has no help in BKN if Kyrie and Durant sit out. Nonsense.

    Also, you're assuming Harden would have no impact in your theory. Maybe we win 3 of those 4 games if healthy Harden is here.

    Just makes no sense
     
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    “having to get 40 points every night for the team to win for an extended amount of years was draining”...Harden was tired of carrying scrubs every game
     
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  6. YOLO

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    The harden doesn't have any help crowd never looked bad. again, it's just the kneejerk posters who try to say i told you so without actual context such as playing some of the worst teams and most having there top players out. That little streak was a gimmick
     
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    He organizes guys in the summer. Just not in Houston lol. Damn McHale was right.
     
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    That's what he and Morey wanted. Dude made his name here putting up stats. It's definitely not for winning lol. He literally told Steph when he asked "Why do you play like that?" he said "It's what they want me to do" lol GTFOH with that junk. So glad Morey's Harden experiment is over. Dude is coming back to reality now. This is the real James Harden without the MDA/Morey inflated stats system. He literally made sure the offense revolved around him. He literally never gave up the ball like literally lol, MDA made him point guard and that was it! Dude was not giving up the rock. He tried to stick us with Westbrook. He should have left then we didn't want to play with CP3. You guys can keep buying these wolf tickets if you want.
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    Mchale is exactly right. Harden was always the type of player where a bad shooting night makes him sulk and be lazy rather than toughening up and trying to exert more energy.

    Harden is amazing when things are going well. He's horrible when things are going bad. That's the epitome of Harden's career.
     
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  10. Reeko

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    it is what they wanted him to do...it’s what they wanted him to do because they determined that ISO ball and monster Harden usage was the best way to slow down the pace against GS, and it also generated wins in general...I’m not surprised u couldn’t comprehend what was going on

    in the games Harden played in last year, we were 18-3 when he had at least 40 points, and 25-22 when he didn’t

    the year before, he had to go on the unguardable tour to drag us out of an 11-14 hole and generate wins with CP3 who had fallen off a cliff, EG, and Capela all missing time

    Give up the rock to who? EG so he can stumble and fumble around? PJ? House? 18-19 CP3 who most of CF was hating that year for a reason? Clint? Westbrick? Who? Look at the offense now without Harden...ranked 24th, and only looks good for stretches when facing bottom feeders if the team is fully healthy

    try again
     
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    I like how you can blame Harden for CP3 missing 1/3 of the season in the two years he was here. Harden wouldn't need to average 40 a game is CP could actually play a whole season. Same goes for Dwight Howard who missed a big chunk of games in 2015 and Harden has to up his usage
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    He needs more help in Brooklyn
     
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    “Stand up guys” in the front office there in Houston.....yea sorry James I don’t believe you.
     
  14. Reeko

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    Stone and Patrick seem cool tho
     
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    I disagree bro.
     
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    Crazy how Harden continues to trash the organization that did everything for him and fans still continue to defend him.
     
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    No. It's not like that at all. We have nobody on our roster anywhere near as good as EITHER of those guys and you're absolutely delusional if you think otherwise.

    Part of the "Harden has no help" crowd's argument, some may say even the biggest part, is the question marks regarding the health of the players they surrounded him with. So it is absolutely valid to point out that weakness when it starts rearing it's head.
     
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  18. Reeko

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    What makes those 2 so bad?
     
  19. YOLO

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    There's nothing in that nichols interview that says hes trashing the organization. in fact he praised it
     
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    I wouldn't be as bothered about Hardens actions if he didn't have a hand in the WB trade. If he requested a trade because of CP3, I can understand because he sucked that season.
     

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