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Can Steph carry his own team thread.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jiggyfly, Dec 22, 2020.

  1. jakejohnson5445

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    Steph made the playoffs 7 straight years including 5 STRAIGHT TRIPS TO THE NBA FINALS. What are you even talking about.
     
  2. HP3

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    But they would be all NBA players with other super stars though.
     
  3. Icehouse

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    Steph was on a loaded team that made the playoffs and multiple finals. Now that he isn't (kinda the purpose of this thread)....
     
  4. Icehouse

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    A great off-the ball shooter and guy that can guard 4 positions wouldn't contend with Harden? Or LeBron? Or Kawhi? Or countless others?

    Funny....
     
  5. jakejohnson5445

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    So let’s wait until his team sucks and then cancel all of his accomplishments. By this definition, Kobe wasn’t all that good. Look at the years post-Shaq and pre-Gasol. Look at the years post 2012.
     
  6. jakejohnson5445

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    Look, I get it.

    Some Harden fans are upset that he gets disrespected and think trying to denigrate Curry is the way to elevate Harden. It’s just such a bad look and comes across as hating.

    Harden is a great player. Steph is a great player. Both can be true.
     
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    If you think I'm not being objective, can you provide examples?
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    No, they would. With Harden not a championship team though, we know how that ends.
     
  9. Mr. Space City

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    You said Harden wasn't the Rockets best player on the floor in Game 4 of the 2018 WCF, when Harden was the leading scorer for both teams and had the highest BPM on the Rockets.

    That's not being objective.
     
  10. wekko368

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    It's a pointless exercise because you know I'm right. If you could prove me wrong, you'd obviously do so.

    Was Draymond Green elite last year?
     
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    Harden scored 30 points, and Chris Paul scored 27 points with significantly better shooting. I think most objective people would agree that CP3 played better than Harden.
     
  12. Mr. Space City

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    most objective people would say the leading scorer with the most made FG's with the highest BPM while being the number 1 focus of the defense was the best player on the floor.
     
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    ***Kobe’s supporting cast on his title teams: Prime Shaq for 3 ships....and the best frontcourt in the league Gasol/Bynum/Odom for his other 2 ships. This was a time where bigs dominated the league.

    ***Lebron’s teammates for his 4 ships: Prime Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and Anthony Davis.

    The 2 best players of the last 20 years sure needed a lot of “help” to win their championships. It’s almost like basketball is a team sport lol.
     
  14. Icehouse

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    Who cancelled his accomplishments? You may want to revisit the thread topic. It poses a question. This season will provide the answer.
     
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    No, it's pointless because Green is a great player and you are trying to pass him off as a scrub. If we can't even agree that Draymond is not a bum then it's a pointless exercise.

    Was Curry elite last year?
     
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    No they wouldn't. Objective people would absolutely look at shooting percentages.

    You're way off base here.
     
  18. Icehouse

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    Kobe had a stretch without elite talent. He still drug teams to the playoffs.

    LeBron drug countess non star teams to the playoffs, and one Finals. He took a non star team to 6 games against Curry's stacked team.

    No one is referring to leading a team to a title in this thread.
     
  19. jakejohnson5445

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    Can Curry carry a team? He’s already proven he can carry a team. I don’t get what I’m missing.
     
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    Draymond Green WAS a great player in years past. Last year, he wasn't. Objectively, you have to operate based on the status quo which is last year.

    No, but you can't draw a conclusion from that due to the small sample size.
     

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