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Harden on Giannis: “I wish I could just run and just dunk. That takes no skill at all.”

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  1. jordnnnn

    jordnnnn Member

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    Eh. There is an argument either way.

    ESPNs RPM
    1 : Giannis
    3 : Harden

    ESPNs wins added
    1 : Harden
    2 : Giannis

    Basketball Reference Win Shares
    1 : Harden
    2 : Giannis

    Basketball Reference Value over replacement
    1 : Harden
    2 : Giannis

    NBA.com player impact estimate
    1 : Giannis
    6 : Harden

    NBAmath’s Total Points Added
    1 : Harden
    2 : Giannis

    538s wins above replacement
    1 : Harden
    2 : Giannis

    The fact that Harden isn’t making top 5 MVP lists this season might be the most egregious denial of how great he has been. EVER. More so than any other year. 1, 2, and 3 without question should be some order of Giannis, LeBron and Harden. Any other voting result would be a GD joke.
     
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  2. cmoak1982

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    ESPN? Is that you?

    Harden is an elite post defender. Has more steals, similar block numbers and is well above a league average defender.

    The gap between Giannis and Harden defensively isn’t anything compared to the gap between Harden and Giannis offensively.

    Keep parroting national media though, you do you.
     
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  3. kjayp

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    Maybe thats what James is playing for...
    If you believe the NBA is somewhat scripted (post season at least...).. create interest in that matchup.. lol
     
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  4. HardenMvp

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    no, the gap is huge on defense bro I'm sorry. Giannis is an Anchor of that bucks defense and averages 30. He is number 1 in defensive wins shares by a good margin
     
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    538 NBA Raptor Ratings

    Offense: Harden 9.0 Giannis 5.3
    Defense: Harden 1.5 Giannis 3.5
     
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    He also has Middleton at 4 and Divincenzo at 19 on his team.
     
    #206 cmoak1982, Feb 28, 2020
  7. kjayp

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    Idc who's a better individual player... Idc about MVPs or awards... I dc about whos better at this and who's better at that... I just want a freaking championship...
     
    #207 kjayp, Feb 28, 2020
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  8. Rocket River

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    IKR
    Seems like someone got ignored by half the board
    and
    rebooted an old account . . . . .

    Rocket River
     
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    I LOVE THIS!! At some point as a man you have to speak up and let people know, you just can't come for me and not expect a response. So looking forward to the Milwaukee Bucks game. LET'S HOOP!
     
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    Found Giannis' CF account, guys!

    You can tell by the missed words and punctuation that it's a non-native speaker.
     
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    I absolutely love the response. Way to go James. Giannis has been cruising for this bruising and he got it!!!!
     
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    FOH you nerd
     
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    Meanwhile, you have him so far down your throat your eyes are watering. Impressive, truly.
     
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    #214 zeeshan2, Feb 28, 2020
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    Lol. This isn't even remotely close to being true.
     
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    Clearly Harden is the better player.

    One can control tempo, one can't.

    1. Lebron
    2. Harden
    3. Luka

    For me, these three are all on a different level than the rest of the NBA, largely because of this fact. When Chris Paul is completely healthy, he is also one of the few guys that can control a game in totality.

    Kawhi and Giannis (And Kobe) are extremely fortunate to have found Belichick/Brady situations.
     
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    Why are you automatically assuming Giannis would "destroy" Harden, rather than assuming his idiotic All-Star comments would rally Harden to destroy Giannis?

    Personally, I think they'll both play hard next time they meet, and James will be thrilled if the Rockets win, regardless of how he or Giannis do, stat-wise.
     
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    not being facetious here, but sincerely want your opinion...

    by way of officiating, do you truly believe harden will be permitted to advance in the playoffs this year?
     
    #218 pippendagimp, Feb 28, 2020
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  20. Amel

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    All that counts is a championship...everything else is noise
     
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