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List of teams that have a better 3 point % than Houston Rockets.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Swapshop, Nov 22, 2019.

  1. Riz

    Riz Contributing Member

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    If we can average that in a season, we would be the best offense ever put together. However, I don't that is realistic considering that we are volume shooters. Toronto is attempting 35.8 threes and making 14.4. Rockets are attempting 45.8 and making 15.5. Also, the constant cringe-worthy 3 pt attempts by WB is not helping anyone, well, it is helping the opponents.
     
  2. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    for the past 9 games (8 game winning streak + 1 loss to denver)

    Rockets are hitting threes at 36.3% rate

    better than contenders LAL, LAC, BOS, MIL
     
  3. Nook

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    The best way to limit threes for Westbrook and compensate for his horrendous shooting is to have a 5 that can shoot 3's. It opens up the lanes for Harden and Westbrook and gives passing options for Westbrook.
     
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    harold bingo Udoka Only Fan
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    As I've posted elsewhere, the personnel we need to make this team work is defenders who are average shooters. It's not crazy, it's you misunderstanding what is needed. Guys who can shoot and play defense are too expensive, you can't fill a team with those. The salary cap forces you to make a choice - do you want serviceable shooters who can defend, or do you want great shooters who can't defend. If we filled out our salary with the latter we would win a lot less games.
     
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  5. malakas

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    The use of this list is only to show which teams are going to plummet down the standings very soon.

    No team is going to be shooting 40% and 39% with over 25 3PA from 3 unless it has 5 Currys, Reddicks and Korvers. :rolleyes:

    Even GSW last season shot 38% on high volume with Klay, KD and Steph.
     
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    Thanks for not sounding condescending at all. I understand how it works, but 0-27 on threes and our strategy to hoist them up suggests otherwise. Look at our roster now and well we defend with just a few great defenders and a bunch of average ones. If the average ones could shoot, we'd be contenders. It's all a matter of finding them, get lucky during FA, but also Morey actually targeting them.
     
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  7. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    This this this. Westbrook should almost never play with Capela. Idk who the 5 is going to be. Maybe, Harenstein maybe sign Bennet after he is recovered. I feel like that is the question for Morey for the rest of the year.
     
  8. Nook

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    In general I agree with this....... you target one of several groups of players....

    #1 Guys that are long and athletic and not good shooters....... you attempt to get them up to 35% from 3's with work and limit the amount of thinking they have to do on the court. You get them to switch and get out on the break in transition and not pass up open 3's.
    #2 You target guys that can shoot and are tweeners but have a solid basketball IQ's. These players usually are limited offensively to 3's, you try to get them out running to increase their offensive output and you try to put the right pieces around them defensively to maximize their defensive ability.
     
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    then with this, you have to account for LTS thanks to our very own Tilman, and here we are. people out here expecting certain high level of productions with penny pinching
     
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    It's not surprising these teams have high 2P% because they don't shoot midrange that much. A lot of their 2PA are layups.

    Somewhat more surprising is that they all have mediocre 3P%. You would think that they would build their teams with lots of good 3p shooters.

    I guess if you are focusing on using the 3, two things happen. (1) Teams will focus on defending the 3 against them, and (2) they may be prone to force some low percentage 3p shots.
     
  11. malakas

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    It's not surprising at all. The Rockets have a whole 10 more 3PA than the current no.1 Raptors right now. That's what? 25% more 3PA?

    And there are only less than 15 games played.
    None of these teams will have so high 40-39% in even next month from now.
    They have just been on hot shooting streaks.
     
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    Part of this is Russ’s high volume and low %- silver lining is the rest will improve via regression to the mean
     
  13. Gray_Jay

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    From your lips, to Westbrook's ears... He's now taking 5.8 per game, 3rd most 3PAs on the team to Harden and McLemore of all people, and he makes 1.3 of them, for 22.7%. McLemore needs to find some consistency too. He's barely over 30 percent from 3.

    Honestly, House (5.4 attempts per game, 44.6%), Tucker (4.3, 46.9), Clemons (3.6, 43.8, on about 10 minutes a game), and Harden are the only guys who should be taking them. Maybe McLemore when he's hot. Gordon for now, has an abysmal success rate, 28.4 %, but he makes up for it by shooting over 8 of them a game. Oy.
     
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    This. Our devotion to the smart shot selection allows us to be one of the best offenses in the league year after year after year even with just average to slightly below average 3 point shooters.

    It’s predictably happening again this year. 3rd in offense so far.
     
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  15. heypartner

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    Well, that's the point -- spacing created by 3pt shooting systems. I didn't post that list to say Rockets, Mavs, Bucks have better mid-range shooters; I posted that to show a direct link between high-volume 3pt-shooting teams getting more layups than other teams.

    That's the system.

    So, if the Rockets want to get to 40% (or just take Harden and Luka, as examples) they'd need to take less 3s (with more discretion) ... which would then affect their ability to get to the rim. Either that, or they'd need to get Curry/Klay and EGo to shoot well, and then, with those layups, they'd win 70 games.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    This just shows you how stupid you are for not jacking up more 3 pointers. 3 pointers are more efficient.
     
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    You say "if the average defenders could also shoot", but that's a big if. If the average ones could also shoot, they wouldn't be on <$5 mil salaries, and I don't think we could afford them. A high percent three point shooter on good volume that is also an average defender is a much more expensive player.
     
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    yeah. if you have the ability to shoot clean three's you do it

    fortunately for us it's not that easy. not a lot can shoot a clean three with a defender on his face and it takes a lot of player and ball movement to get a clean three
     
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    Rockets 3P% 233/687 = 33.91%
    WestBrick's 3P% = 17/75 = 22.67%
    Rockets 3P% not including WestBrick (233-17)/(687-75) = 35.29%

    If WestBrick never took a three we would move up from 24th to 15th in team 3P%....


    As I once read on twitter, Russel Westbrook is Corey Brewer with the confidence of Steph Curry when it comes to three-point shooting.
     
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  20. topfive

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    Why should *I* try it? That makes no sense whatsoever.

    And it's fewer, not less.
     

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