Why are china and chinese fans so sensitive?

See my thread about "Americans don't understand Chinese and Chinese don't understand Americans."

 

It’s the product of propaganda and living under a nationalist regime. They think what their government tells them to think and anyone or anything that deviates from that is seen as an attack.

 

I really wouldn't call it sensitive.... It's more about their culture...

When I was stationed in Japan and I was studying Judo and aikido everything was about honor.. So things that seemed not that important to us Americans was very important to them...

So the biggest issue is we are looking at their culture and their way of doing things from an American perspective and not from a Chinese perspective. Unfortunately, we try to change every culture to be an american culture and that's why we are hated so much in a lot of countries....

T_Man

 

Territorial integrity and sovereignty are among the most important things to Chinese people, there is hundreds of years of history of them fighting for these things it's extremely sensitive.

Americans don't have a history of being invaded by other countries, they value other things a lot more that's understandable. For Chinese people it's a completely different story. Hongkong, Tibet, etc all included.

If one day Taiwan declares independence, and CCP government do not try to, or fails to take it by force, they will not be able govern the Chinese people anymore.

Check out the Anti-Japan riot from 2012, triggered by the dispute of the tiny Diaoyudao Islands.

 

This really isn't the best example, but "hot take" opinions on the Rockets from fans of basketball I talk to that get their opinion from media pundits that have a heavy West Coast bias can upset me. They'll spew dumb takes like Harden exploits the rules, he travels, he chokes in the postseason, his usage rate skews his stats heavily, he doesn't play defense, he's too gimmicky, he's too selfish because they hear it from their sports news outlets. That pisses me off. And it's over basketball.

Yet here I am criticizing people that hold a lot of nationalistic pride and don't like when outsiders criticize their homeland, whether those criticisms are valid or not.

 

I don't think there is "both sides" equivalence to this. Half this country loves it when foreigners **** on our president including me. That isn't the same with Xi because they actually live in a autocratic regime where even verbal dissent is quickly squashed. We here are free to **** on our politicians. 90% of the late night talk shows in the states **** on the current regime in power in our country. Those late night hosts would be in prison if they were in China and doing the same to Xi.

 

Um...Republicans/Conservative are the same way. People whose position are rigid, discriminatory, Not accepting of different ideas are usually thin-skinned and hateful of people that have different views. Republicans/Conservatives don't like different ideas, people of different background/ethnicities/religions UNLESS they express views IDENTICAL to theirs. IF those immigrants were reliably Republican/Conservative voters with or without stable incomes, they would FLY them across the boarder.

Freedom only means freedom to believe what Republican/Conservative view as America.

 

Oh I don't envy the lives of even wealthy privileged Chinese living there. I'm not particularly religious but I do think people that are should be able to exercise that freedom as long as it doesn't infringe on the freedoms of those that choose not to participate. Organ harvesting of Muslims isolated in internment camps is a bigger humanitarian concern to me than sovereignty rights of Hong Kong with the PRC. Although both are valid criticisms against the Chinese government given their actions in both.

 

Exactly.

 

Agree, except I would extend this to the left as well who freak out if you don't automatically fall in line with their views. Any group tied to a bubble and false reality get pissy when you challenge it. That said, the Chinese take authoritarian propaganda and idea control to a new level beyond that of political theater. They are communists who seek to have their ideology stand alone and be the dominant control factor. This is why they are dangerous and oppressive and force people and companies to fall in line with their communist party agenda. This is why they go after religion and this is why they go after dissenters. Now they are flexing their political and financial muscles and we need to see if American companies are going to bend over or stand up to them. Sadly I suspect people here will be more than happy to bend over for the communist party in China.

I need to say this and believe me I am not hyperbolic. This is a direct confrontation between the NBA, Morey, the Rockets, the fans and the Communist Party of the PRC. So essentially...

This is a direct confrontation with Communism.

 

Democracy does not work everywhere

In the middle east and China and Africa ... they need to be told what to do , what their role is, status etc. to have a functioning society. Yes, most still are seduced by consumerism, but only to distract them from their "roles".

 

Here is China's POV: we are more sensitive, triggered and outraged by all the social justice warriors in the US combined. But we have the money and market. So get on your knees and apologize or we will cancel you faster than you cancelled Roseanne.

They've been doing this to hundreds of companies and government. Unfortunately. It works.

 

China should ban basketball, a sport of American origin.

 

This is the real reason Chinese fans are so angry...

 

Do you have ANY idea how ironic this statement is?

 

Yeah, they should invent a sport that benefits their strengths. Rather than exploiting their weakness...