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Dwayne Wade>Steve Francis?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hikanoo49, Feb 14, 2004.

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  1. hikanoo49

    hikanoo49 Member

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    Is it just me or does Dwayne remind you of the old Stevie Franchise?

    Wade 6'4 212

    16.3 pts, 4.3 rebs, 4.4 assists, 1.3 stls, .7 blks, 47% FG, 70% FT, 3 TOS, 36 mins

    Francis 6'3 200

    16.9, 5.5 rebs, 5.9 assists, 1.4 stls, .5 blks, 40% FG, 76% FT, 3.6 TOS, 40 mins


    BUILD- Both are about the same height and weight. Wade is a little bigger.

    ATHLETICISM- Both are about the same. Wade had this amazing windmill dunk yesterday during the rookie/soph game.

    PENETRATION- Both penetrate very well.

    STATS- Wades FG% is significantly higher and extremely impressive for a PG. His stats are comparable to Francis and should be almost identical or higher if he was the starter at the beginning of the year.

    BASKETBALL IQ/LEADERSHIP- Too hard to tell since Wade is only a rookie and I have only watched about 8 Heat games this year.



    Thoughts?
     
    #1 hikanoo49, Feb 14, 2004
  2. madmonkey37

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    I think wade plays sg while Rafer Alston plays pg for the Heat. Wade didnt start doing well until he was moved to sg from being the pg.
     
    #2 madmonkey37, Feb 14, 2004
  3. lost_elephant

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    wade reminds me more of cat than steve.
     
    #3 lost_elephant, Feb 14, 2004
  4. farhan007

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    why compare francis's worst year. He sdefinitly in a slump, and is getting out of it. Compare wade's stats to steve's rookie stats.
     
    #4 farhan007, Feb 14, 2004
  5. pasox2

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    Yeah, they look similar.

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/dwyane_wade/head2head.html

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/steve_francis/head2head.html

    Dwyane Wade
    Miami Heat
    Position: G
    Height: 6-4 Weight: 212
    College: Marquette '05
    Player file | Team stats

    2003-04 Statistics
    PPG 16.3
    RPG 4.3
    APG 4.4
    SPG 1.33
    BPG .67
    FG% .472
    FT% .706
    3P% .310
    MPG 36.0

    Steve Francis
    Houston Rockets
    Position: G
    Height: 6-3 Weight: 200
    College: Maryland '99
    Player file | Team stats

    2003-04 Statistics
    PPG 16.9
    RPG 5.5
    APG 5.9
    SPG 1.41
    BPG .49
    FG% .403
    FT% .765
    3P% .300
    MPG 40.0
     
    #5 pasox2, Feb 14, 2004
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  6. Oski2005

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    Shouldn't we compare their rookie stats?

    Dwyane Wade

    2003-04 Statistics
    PPG 16.3
    RPG 4.3
    APG 4.4
    SPG 1.33
    BPG .67
    FG% .472
    FT% .706
    3P% .310
    MPG 36.0


    Steve Francis

    1999-00 Statistics
    PPG 18.0
    RPG 5.3
    APG 6.6
    SPG 1.53
    BPG .38
    FG% .445
    FT% .786
    3P% .345
    MPG 36.1
     
    #6 Oski2005, Feb 14, 2004
  7. MFW2310

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    I don't understand the purpose of this thread. Are you saying we should trade Steve for Dwayne Wade? If so then state it clearly. I don't understand why some people on this board bring out stats just for the sake of bashing Steve, with no other purposes what-so-ever. From those stats, the MOST I can say is that Wade MIGHT be the slightly better shooter, although the sample size is too small to tell. Even you admitted you have only seen him play 8 games.
     
    #7 MFW2310, Feb 15, 2004
  8. acizlan

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    i dont think Wade is as explosive as francis, at least i never c much of hang time on his dunks(which means weaker at abs or cant jump too well with one leg).

    it s clear that francis has more skill and was muchbetter than him in rookie season
     
    #8 acizlan, Feb 15, 2004
  9. yaopao

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    Explosion has nothing to do with hang time. That has everything to do with body control. Wade is pretty damn explosive.
     
    #9 yaopao, Feb 15, 2004
  10. lalala902102001

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    Steve Francis > Dwayne Wade
     
    #10 lalala902102001, Feb 15, 2004
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    SF3 is way better no contest at this time.. but who knows later. I see some similarites in his game though.

    J
     
    #11 room4rentsf, Feb 15, 2004
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    I can see the comparisons. Both are two-guards at heart. Wade is definitely explosive. I think Steve is quicker with the ball and (this year notwithstanding) a better jump shooter. But sadly enough, Wade might have the edge on overall b-ball IQ. He's just a really heady player. He'll be running point in Miami for years. Let's not forget that he was the #4 pick last year though. It's not like we're comparing Francis to some unknown free agent. A lot of people knew this kid Wade was good.
     
    #12 DonKnutts, Feb 15, 2004
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    Wade's a great young player with a ton of upside. Had a steller college career and is a proven leader.

    On the other hand, Dwayne is not the pure athelete that SF is nor will he ever be. Steve is a good "step quicker" than Wade (no slam on Wade, just a diff. type of player).

    Steve could be one of the 2 or 3 best pure athelete's in the NBA.

    Your thoughts?
     
    #13 hardeji, Feb 15, 2004
  14. slinslin

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    Francis is not quicker than Wade. Get off your homer glasses.

    Dwayne is not the pure athlete? :rolleyes:
     
    #14 slinslin, Feb 15, 2004
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    Yes he is. Get off your troll glasses.
     
    #15 SamFisher, Feb 15, 2004
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    I haven't followed Dwayne since he left "A Different World"...didn't realize he was still around.
     
    #16 TheFreak, Feb 16, 2004
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    Wow, wouldn't those stats be great this season? We would have about five more wins. I mostly like the shooting percentages.
     
    #17 rimbaud, Feb 16, 2004
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    and that isnt even his highes carrear shooting percentage.
    the problem is his season s that he is just too hesitant to take a shot. He lost all his confidence. He even admitted himself that he isnt the franchise anymore.
     
    #18 farhan007, Feb 16, 2004
  19. sjackson0

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    Wade is not quicker than Francis...this is basketball not Lacrose.

    What is this thread about????

    Wade is not close to Steve...please!

    I don't care if Steve's numbers are down this year because we are winning. His numbers are down and Yao's is up. That's what we wanted right?
     
    #19 sjackson0, Feb 16, 2004
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