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Tilman: must be under the tax 1 of next 3 years

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. bobloblaw

    bobloblaw Contributing Member

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    I think most recognize that Les was a cheapass. Some were hoping that Tilman wouldn’t be. Others expected it.
     
  2. macan

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    i can't tell you much as I wasn't with them for too long
     
  3. rezdawg

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    Ok, just so you know, the previous owner used to force Morey to make moves on a regular basis to avoid going into luxury tax territory. This current team is in luxury tax territory and trying to avoid repeat offender status, which is an entirely different ballgame.
     
  4. Zboy

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    To be fair to Tillman, Les saw this coming and bolted.
     
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    How often did Les pay the LT? Y’all really think he would’ve been fine with paying the repeater tax? I heavily doubt it...
     
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    ain’t no owner willingly paying the repeater tax unless they have a dynasty on their hands...people sound ridiculous trying to get on Fertitta for this

    CP3 could be done absolutely done like 2 years from now and Tilman would be paying repeater tax for Harden and a bunch of role players/scrubs to not come close to winning a title
     
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    this is called "whatever it takes" lmao
     
  8. BleedRocketsRed

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    I get that OKC's payroll is through the roof now but isn't this the same OKC team which handed us Harden because they wanted to avoid the repeater tax?
     
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    Strongly doubt the Rockets can get completely under the luxury tax threshold. They will still be more than $4 million over the tax threshold after this trade, and they won't have any more picks to dump salary without seriously hampering their future. Plus, if they have any designs to add someone on the buyout market, that'll further increase team salary.
     
  10. Kim

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    Again, apologies for the laziness, but does this mean that if the Rockets pay the tax this year, next year they will need to be under the luxury tax in order to prevent repeater status? (At least I'm not posting ignorant hot takes in here, because jeebus, there are some ignorant takes in this thread.)
     
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  11. Carl Herrera

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    It's one thing to avoid the tax when you have a 41-win team with Kyle Lowry and Luis Scola being your top guys, it's another when you have Harden and CP3 and supposedly in win-now mode. Les Alexander was no big spender. Too bad he could not have sold to a real billionaire.

    We went from "never even had one conversation about luxury tax" in the summer to "must be under tax for 1 out of 3 seasons" now, and doing nothing but cost-saving moves all year.
     
  12. aurocketfan

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    Both owners are cheap. End of story.
     
  13. tinman

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    You guys forgot how cheap Les was

    You realize he bought the Rockets for $90 mill and sold it for $3 bill and took the trophies to some toilet decoration in his beach house in Florida

    Tilman makes his money on the real
    he creates restaurants and hotels

    he's no dirty New York bonds trader


    oh yeah , look it up you lazy newbs
     
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    REAL
     
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  15. mac_got_this

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    Blame D’Antoni and Nkrey for this. The way to avoid luxury tax is to get in some of these young guys with good potential. We have that with House and can kick him up with MLE money instead of goin out in FRee Agency and looking for 3and d bet to pay 17 million.

    But D’Antoni and morey don’t develop and play young guys
     
  16. ashleyem

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    I think Nene is gonna get traded today.
     
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    Lol, imagine wishing you could be OKC.
     
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    MDA was literally starting House before he ran out of NBA days on his two-way contract. But cool.
     
  19. jerrios

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    Tillman was a billionaire til he bought a team for $2.2 billion.
     
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    This is not news. And no one should crap on Fertita about it. OKC is going to be the first team ever to pay that repeater luxury tax. That is, unless they off load about 22 million in salary today along with probably two first round picks to get under the tax line. PPat anybody? Abrines? Cuban may actually be able to recoup picks today since he's got this 21 million TPE. You do know we could have Steven Adams right now for Capela, Nene, and change....and they'd likely give up a couple seconds, maybe even a first to get that deal done.

    Every team up to this point, including the Nyets and Knicks have avoided the repeater tax. And myself and others informed this BBS long ago that it would always be a factor with our team.

    This doesn't mean Fertita is cheap. It means there is a choke point in the CBA to limit big market teams (all teams) from continuing to buy up all the top talent year after year. And every team has respected it.

    Don't be surprised when OKC gives stuff away today. Washington stepped out of the tax. Miami is either out or close to being out.

    And our team is perfectly positioned to the advantage. We'll either stay in the tax and pick up assets for ddoin so that push us up to championship level. Or we'll get out of the tax today and make upgrades to our tradeable assets and future player acquisition flexibility while simultaneously remaining as good out slightly better than we were when the day began.

    This is business. A championship team may be able to justify paying the repeater luxury tax. May.... But no other team can justify it.
     
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